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Islamic USF player: Dispute over uniform led to dismissal

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AMS, Sep 14, 2004.

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  1. AMS

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    Youre great to be putting labels on people. Voice of reason because he agrees with your point of view, and extremist because I choose to live my own way of life. :rolleyes:
     
  2. AMS

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    Here is how i think, I think that if there is a god, he must know whats up, and whats gunna be up, and when he says that this is it, i sure as hell will believe him, because I fear the afterlife much more than what others think of me and my beliefs.
     
  3. BrianKagy

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    But you don't choose your own way of life. You follow the Qu'ran without reservation or interpretation, as you don't think it should be "modified". You follow the Qu'ran's "way of life".

    And you state that it's the "last" religion, which implies to me the only choice is to follow it or suffer some sort of punishment.

    That doesn't sound like much of a choice to me.

    The problem here is that there isn't a shred of evidence that God said anything in the Qu'ran, or the Bible, or the October issue of Playboy.
     
  4. AMS

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    I choose to follow everything written in the Quran, I dont do this because someone told me, I am an adult, i can comprehend other religions, after quite some research I found that Islam was the way for me.

    and there has to be some darned reason that it is the fastest growing religion in America

    http://www.arc.org/C_Lines/CLArchive/story5_3_03.html

    I believe that god said the things he did in the quran, the bible and the torah. Its called faith, you know like when people pray and stuff, its coz you have faith in someone up there.
     
  5. BrianKagy

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    The growth rate of Islam is not germane to the conversation.

    I understand the definition of faith. What I don't understand is its application to tangible things, like 1500-year-old books.

    Faith that God exists makes sense to me. Faith that God wrote a book for us, or that man can know anything specific with regard to God's appearance or wishes or ideas on communal living, does not.
     
  6. AMS

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    If god can exist, surely then you know that people have faith that god is god and can do anything, sending down a piece of writing is no tough task for him either. and i "from the fear of god" would listen to every damn word in these books.
     
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    I didn't make any comment as to the relative difficulty. I didn't say God couldn't do it. I said I didn't think having faith that he would do such a thing or had done such a thing made any sense.
     
  8. HayesStreet

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    More chance that God had something to do with the beauties in playboy than in writing some old oppressive book.
     
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    i understand thinking that of the Koran. it purports to be direct revelation of God through one man.

    The Bible, though, is a bit different. The New Testament, in particular, is nothing more than a collection of accounts from eyewitnesses and second hand accounts of Jesus...his teachings..his life..his death..and ultimately his resurrection. Followed by an historical account of how the church developed in Acts. Followed by letters among early Christians about their faith.

    Christians typically believe it was inspired by the divine. But it's not as if it's a secret in the cave sort of revelation. There is corroborative evidence in non-Christian writings of the life of Jesus Christ..that he existed..that he was crucified..and that a bunch of people claimed he was resurrected.

    But this is perhaps the biggest difference between Christianity and other faiths....it's first about NEWS of actual physical events...and then later is about viewpoints based off that news.
     
  10. AMS

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    Although the quran doesn't have these views of other men writing down stuff and all, there are compilations of hadeeth that men and women have written down, and many eye witnesses that saw waht they saw....You say all that stuff happened back in the the time of Jesus, but letter writing, historical bookeeping etc was even more prominent in the times of Mohammad.
     
  11. HayesStreet

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    does it seem strange to follow by the letter the words of someone who was possess by satan?
     
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    Now why you gunna go talk about jesus like that, he was a pretty good man.
     
  13. MadMax

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    adeel --

    the Koran and the New Testament are just different. they're different in what they purport to be and in the writings that comprise them both. one is a direct revelation from God...in a literal fashion. the other is an account of the life of Jesus, followed by letters among early believers. we have the words of Jesus written down in the New Testament...but we do not have a revelation in a textual sense. it's just different.
     
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    huh??
     
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    Naw, it's all air-brushing.




    EDIT: I meant Playboy, not the Qu'ran.
     
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    i dont participate in any of these threads, but these threads seem to be getting a little repetitive and redundant. two or three posters attacking islam, two people defending it, another comparing and contrasting islam and the koran with christianity and the bible, and another saying that there should be no religion at all.

    what exactly are any of you trying to acheive?
     
  17. AMS

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    ok my B, i missed the part you specifically said New Testament.
     
  18. AMS

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    I honestly dont know, you almost never see me starting the fight, i just defend my religion, and then they call me the extremist. Yea insult a guy till he can take it no more, and expect him to sit there and just shut up. I will defend my religion till death. End of story.
     
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    I'm trying to convert every single person on Earth to my way of thinking, through the BBS. I thought that was obvious.
     
  20. Smokey

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    You have to conform to the dress code of the area or activity. For example, I thought it was hilarious on the Amazing Race when that woman was like "Why is everyone staring at me?" in India. Hello! She was wearing booty shorts.
     
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