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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ROXRAN, Nov 29, 2007.

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  1. Dubious

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    If you added up every death resulting from Islamic terror, including the proxy wars against Israel, I think it would be just a small percentage of the murder and mayhem precipitated by Hitler's Germany, some 30 million in Europe alone.

    So yes Iran is a threat but calling Admenijad Hitler is just pure hyperbole.

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  2. ROXRAN

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    and if you added the deaths of this Iraq war with other wars, you'd see it marginalized as well, but the point being is not the number of deaths thus far, it is the continuing peril with numbers that may eventually expand on Hitler's Germany...

    They state Death to America....They state that if all Jews are in Israel, they don't have to look for them all over the world....and they want to expand on weaponry....

    I realize some refuse to get the world-wide threat, and I'm glad you have admitted Iran is at least a threat, but the point being is Islamic driven terror is the net product and if that isn't a true global threat I don't know what is....

    What I do know is that Islamic driven terror cultures in the middle-east, and that Iran drives this machine like no other....
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    terrorism is certainly a threat. Iran is a threat, though there are far worse ones. Neither Iran nor terrorism are on the same level of threat as Nazi Germany.

    P. Gabriel said it best, that the biggest threat during Hitler's reign was people's acceptance of stereotypes, and bigotry towards Jews. Hitler could have never been successful without that.

    To pretend like Nazi Germany, and Iran are even close to the same thing does a great disservice to those that lived through, struggled against, fought, and died during the period of Nazi Germany.
     
  4. jo mama

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    how about our allies, saudi arabia? or pakistan, whom we give billions of dollars to?

    i know you dont know what it is, but you should look into wahabism and where it originates.
     
  5. surrender

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    You know a thread is good when it's been Godwinned in the OP
     
  6. ROXRAN

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    I want to ask you a question...I stated there were those who didn't think Hitler would become a world-wide threat...Who do you think I was referring to?

    I was referring to the German people...If you ever read on why Hitler and the Nazi movement was able to spread it examines certain topics such as appealing to a common ground,...promising better...and intolerance of objections towards the movement....

    These 3 areas are related to Iran....After the shah, was overthrown:
    1. appeal to a common ground. - reverence to the Islamic religion
    2. promising better - all those in power or seeking power state this...
    3. intolerance of objections towards the movement - Iran like Hitler's Germany does not tolerate objections of it's movement and what drives it's movement...

    Had the German populace realized the true scope of what Nazi Germany was all about would they allow such a thing? The problem was the Nazi movement declared its self as righteous to be the world wide movement,...much like militant Islam....
    Similarily as well, militant Islam preys on the youth to culture the movement.

    Germany used intimidation of it's stromtroopers to further quell objectivity...Much like Iran does with it's IRG units or Hezbollah extention....

    Germany spread through industrialization and military mobility....Iran seeks the same influence and spread based on common ground ideology,...however twisted....

    I think of it as a GREAT service to those that lived through, struggled against, fought, and died during the period of Nazi Germany to remember and learn from the past....
     
  7. SWTsig

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    i'm gonna bite my tongue and not call you an idiot.
     
  8. Ottomaton

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    So when Kruschev said "We will bury you." Should we have launched a full preemptive nuclear strike on the USSR? How 'bout when they imported missles to Cuba, cause that was sure one hell of a threat.

    Again, with the WWII nostalgia. I think I've posted on this once or twice before. Ask any of the WWII vets whether the situations are the same. I don't think you'll like the answer. I know you want your chance to live out the scenes of Saving Private Ryan but you don't get a chance to play 'WWII Army men' in the real world.
     
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    waitwaitwait.... i know this..... George W. Bush!
     
  10. ROXRAN

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    JFK thought it serious enough that we were at the brink of war... :cool:
     
  11. Ottomaton

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    And thankfuly he had enough sense not to declare Kruschev 'the new Hitler' and launch a preemptive nuclear attack.
     
  12. ROXRAN

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    Thankfully he had enough sense to take the threat seriously and mobilize military force to quell the situation...
     
  13. Rashmon

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    Sounds like someone is posting from their underground bunker again.
     
  14. ROXRAN

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    watch the video.
     
  15. Ottomaton

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    So if moblizing the British and French Army wasn't enough to deter Hitler from invading Poland, why would neo-Hitler care, and how is that like anything that JFK did?
     
  16. ROXRAN

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    JFK created a naval block showdown in which he prepared to use force, with the hope of not having to.

    We need to be prepared to use force with the hope of not having to as well.
     
  17. Ottomaton

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    While I'm certainly not an expert, based on everything I've seen he very much was not prepared to use force with regards to the blockade, despite repeated protestations of the Joint Chiefs.

    I agree. As soon as Iran invades anybody, we should be ready to come to their defense.
     
  18. giddyup

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    Do you think he didn't make the case for their inspiration coming from Nazis?
     
  19. ROXRAN

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    How are you not ready to use force when implementing a naval blockade? :confused:

    Can you display info. that he was not prepared to use force, because my information states otherwise...Regardless of this minutia on your part, the fact remains that the connection of inspiration and similarity is tied very much between militant islam and Nazi Germany....

    Furthermore the engine that drives militant islam is none other than Iran...

    If you think otherwise, re-examine the video presentation....
     
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    Perhaps you should read some books on the Cuban Missile Crisis? The ships forming the blockade were absolutely not authorized to use force to prevent the breaking of the blockade.

    The video, BTW, is a joke. I actually laughed out loud at several points at the misrepresentations, deceptions, and just plain BS. One line - "Hitler couldn't have said it better himself" - great tie in to Hitler. LOL. Also, pulling data from editorials in Egypt and somehow blaming that on Aminajahad? I can find racist hateful things in American newspapers. Does that make them comments made by GWB? Or actually more like Nicolas Sarkozy since we aren't even talking about a newspaper in the same country.

    I really love bringing up WWII figures. People in Palestine did have contact with Nazis. But then, people in Germany WERE NAZIS, people in Belgium WERE Rexists. The national hero of Finland used to have lunch with Hitler for Christ sake. Perhaps we should invade Finland first? Not to mention the Azad Hind which got 1000x times the NAZI support of these Arabs. Make sure we invade India, too.

    If you really think that 'presentation' makes any real points, you either belong on the short bus or just fell off a turnip truck.
     
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