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Islamic honor killings - why the perps get off easy?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Nov 23, 2010.

  1. Zboy

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    From the article....

    "The rules of inter-caste marriages are complicated and extremely rigid in many rural communities in India, with some lovers even murdered in "honour killings" by relatives trying to protect their family's reputation."

    "...Traditional Hindu society breaks down into brahmins (priests and scholars), kshatriya (soldiers), vaishya (merchants) and shudra (labourers). Below the caste system are the Dalits, formerly known as "Untouchables"."
     
  2. durvasa

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    I missed it. Thanks.
     
  3. Zboy

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  4. AroundTheWorld

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    Wow, all that anger from our young male islamist friends.

    This all happened while I first drank a lot of beer sitting next to two of my favorite muslims yesterday, and then met the pope today.

    I think Muhammed the prophet would have liked to go have a few alcoholic drinks with me.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    did you kick him in his wrinkled old ball-bag?
     
  6. AroundTheWorld

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    No, I was about 30 yards away. He seems old and very frail. I don't hit people, much less old people.
     
  7. Hydhypedplaya

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    Then you really are deluded.
     
  8. AroundTheWorld

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    91 %

    91 %

    Incorrect. Anti-Islamist would be correct.


    No hard feelings at all. I was busy drinking beer next to two of my favorite muslims. Plus, we have someone here calling me Hitler all the time, illustrating it with pictures, and not one of the other muslim posters (other than slandballa and I think brownbeast99 maybe) has ever spoken up against this. I mean...it doesn't get much worse than being called Hitler. I would think that your comments about football are very tame compared to that. Plus, as you know, I can dish it out so I also have to have a thick skin, and I do.

    First of all, I doubt that everyone here is intelligent enough when I read posts by adeelsiddiqui and Hydhypedplaya. Secondly, there are no twists and obfuscations. The hysterical reaction by young male islamists to presenting you with an academic study, specific cases, photos of victims and empirical data speaks for itself.
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    Of all people who deserve your scorn, he should be pretty damn high on the list.
     
  10. AroundTheWorld

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    I'm not a big fan. It was a coincidence, someone asked me if I wanted to join a group the next day. I was surprised at the lax security.

    While I disagree with a lot of things he says and stands for, I do believe he has good intentions, though, and I think the positives outweigh the negatives.

    It was definitely an interesting experience. People from all over the world (a lot from Latin America) were cheering, singing and dancing like for a rock star.
     
  11. Hydhypedplaya

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    Since you didn't even bother to read the link you supplied:

    For example, in North America, 91 percent of victims were murdered for being "too Western" as compared to a smaller but still substantial number (71 percent) in Europe. In comparison, only 43 percent of victims were killed for this reason in the Muslim world.

    Now don't you look like a bigger idiot.
     
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    REGION Worldwide North America Europe Muslim World

    Motive
    -- "too Western" 58 91 71 43
    -- "sexual impropriety" 42 9 29 57

    Hydhypedplaya - interesting comment - do you think "sexual impropriety" is a "better reason"?

    Explain your comment.

    Thanks in advance.

    By the way, the 91 % I was referring to were not the ones you managed to find.

    I was referring to this:

     
  13. Hydhypedplaya

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    And Daniel Pipes gets this statistic from...?

    Exactly.

    But no, continue using the most non-objective sources you can find thinking you're actually proving a point.

    You may even be more deluded than Hitler was.
     
  14. Air Langhi

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    Hinduism has been a more peaceful religion than islam, christianity, and judaism. In general hindus aren't out there trying to spread the religion, kill infidels, and condemning people to hell.
     
  15. AroundTheWorld

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    Aside from the asinine Hitler comment - in the last two posts, first you tried to be a smartass by quoting the study, then, when you were busted once again for embarrassing failure at reading comprehension, you changed your story and said you think the study is not objective. What is it? :confused: First you complain that I supposedly did not read the article, then you discredit the article.
     
  16. R0ckets03

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    man...i dont understand how some of you don't get tired from arguing the same thing over and over with each other.
     
  17. Hydhypedplaya

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    No, you keep purporting this 91% statistic, despite having no idea where it really came from. Where did Daniel Pipes get this number? What study did he take this from? What's the margin of error of that statistic? What's the sampling bias of that statistic? Can you or Daniel Pipes answer any of those questions? No, which is why reasonable people laugh at people who use Daniel Pipes to try to and prove a point. This is the same guy who went on for 6 months after Obama became President stating he was a former Muslim. Apparently he knows more about people than they know about themselves. This is the same guy who said America should be giving Saddam better weapons to fight Iran. This is the same guy who thinks America should destroy Iran nuclear facilities, while completely disregarding the consequences (Strait of Hormuz blockade). This is the same guy who said the United States should fund terrorists to fight against Iran.

    And this is the guy you are using as a source to try and prove an asinine point.
     
  18. AroundTheWorld

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    Are you completely r****ded? It's all there in the link I posted in post 7, including an explanation of the methodology and all the figures. And whoever Daniel Pipes is, he did not write that study.
     
  19. Hydhypedplaya

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    Are you that stupid?

    This study analyzes 172 incidents and 230 honor-killing victims. The information was obtained from the English-language media around the world with one exception.

    Where is the citation where any of that information was received?

    It isn't that difficult to make up statistics and say "this information was obtained by watching the news", which is exactly what your article is doing.

    But no, go on thinking you're proving a point by using non-objective sources. It would be like Hitler saying the Jews are taking over and using the Protocols as evidence.

    PS - Don't get too upset that I insulted your Führer.
     
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    What are you even arguing about? Are you doubting that a majority of "honor murders" is committed by and against people who happen to be muslims?
     

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