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Islam vs South Park

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Apr 21, 2010.

  1. Nice Rollin

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  2. Rocket River

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    Don't be.
    but
    we all are willing to die and even kill for what we beleive in.
    Don't we have soldier doing this everyday . . in the name of AMERICA? Freedom?

    If a American blew himself up and took out osama and his crew
    He'd be hailed as a hero . . .
    for better or worse. . . that is how they look at it.

    My point is look at it from THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
    I don't endorse it but i try to understand where they are coming from.

    without understanding . .. . I think we will never have peace.

    Donny - I TRULY beleive [just for you AroundTheWorld] that peace with all Muslims, Christians, etc is possible. But constantly casting one as the devil is not helping.

    I don't think they are unreasonable people.
    Then again. . . . I have never been to the Middle East

    Rocket River
     
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    Brilliant! You don't "beleive" that people who blow themselves and others up are unreasonable people.
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    Never strive? Do you mean never prosper?

    I think this speaks greatly to that point:

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  5. DonnyMost

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    It's not just one, it's any religion which promotes/justifies violence. We just happen to be speaking about Islam because of the topic of the thread.

    And yes, calling a spade a spade does help. Excusing violent behavior, or ignoring violent precepts of religious doctrine (or political doctrine, or whereever it may come from) is NOT acceptable should be roundly denounced with actions taken to prevent it.
     
  6. jo mama

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    i dont think some of yall have ever even watched the show.

    christianity is by far the most mocked and ridiculed subject on the show...period.

    in america we dont threaten people w/ death for their viewpoints or what they say. satire is and has always been a very important part of american culture - nothing is tabboo on that show - why should islam be off-limits? im quite surprised at some of yalls defense or making excuses for death threats.

    furthermore, south park actually showed mohammed on their show about 10 years ago and it didnt seem to be a big deal then.

    Rocket River
     
  7. jo mama

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    in america you absolutely have a right to be offended just like south park has a right to free speech. but you absolutely do not have a right to make death threats b/c someone says or does something you dont like.

    i have a novel idea - dont like it then change the damn channel!
     
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    LOL? :grin:
     
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    Ayaan Hirsi Ali is such an impressive woman. The "outraged" Muslims should follow her path. They should watch this video.
     
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    LINK.
     
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    You see that's your problem. If you guys believe in this. Form a group and denounce all these idiots because they are giving you a bad name. How about speaking out and educate some of these r****ds? My post was greatly towards idiotic/fanatic Muslims.
     
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    I saw that.

    Score one for the bad guys.
     
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    LOL.. that is awesome.. MAJOR PROPS to the hacker who did that..
     
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    Looks like Otto was right, you don't f*** with unemployed 20-something stoners.
     
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    wow Rocket River.. are you serious? you are starting to worry me. I agree with your analogy if a American went over there and sacrificed himself to kill Osama he would be considered a hero.. But what if an American went over there and just blew himself up and killed hundreds of innocent civilians including women and children? He could say his cause was to get back at Osama. Is he considered a hero??
    This is why your analogy is deeply flawed. These terrorists are definitely unreasonable people and it shows by threatening to kill someone over a cartoon.
     
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    Seriously, only thing 99% of Muslims in this world want when it comes to non-Muslims' understanding Islam is for someone to be able to differentiate between a Muslim and a terrorist. Even though some deranged terrorists claim to be Muslim......Muslim ≠ Terrorist.

    I don't get upset at someone drawing a MSpaint of one of God's Prophets. But I do get upset when someone spews ignorant stuff by quoting random websites. That is why I condone what people like DaDakota always say with respect to this topic (you can tell by the way he titled the thread). Although Donny is wrong on many things, he did make a good point. As a Muslim, defending my faith against ignorance is one of the things I will LIVE for...

    As for Southpark, good for them. If they REALLY wanna piss off extremists, they should just take the money they make off this episode and give it to a charitable group that genuinely helps Muslims in 3rd-world countries. Would love to see extremists faces then...
     

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