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Islam Unveiled: Secret Documentary exposes chilling truths

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Honey Bear, Mar 21, 2016.

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Should America STOP trade with Saudi

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  1. Honey Bear

    Honey Bear Contributing Member

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    Glad to be a part of this project.

    The first of much more to come from hidden camera footage surveilling muslims - in the civilized and uncivilized world. The Donald has the balls to cut them off completely with big OIL not controlling him like the puppets that were Bush and Obama.


    Saudi Arabia Uncovered

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/saudi-arabia-uncovered/

    US Air Date: March 29

     
  2. Nook

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    Not surprised at all.
     
  3. HR Dept

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    Definitely horrifying and troubling, but I can't say that any of this is groundbreaking or exposes some unknown hidden secret. Or at least I'm not shocked or surprised.

    I wonder how damning "America Unveiled: Secret Documentary exposes chilling truths" would be. That would seem like a more relevant topic of discussion to me. Let's sweep around our own front door.
     
  4. rockbox

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    are these public schools or private ones?
     
  5. Nook

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    If you want to make a thread about it, feel free.
     
  6. HR Dept

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    Touche... Ignore me and do continue.
     
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    Lol...how is this exposing anything? Everyone knows Saudi is a **** hole already.
     
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    Not surprised. This is common knowledge that every politician on both aisles has known about for years. Yet, they don't seem to care. In fact they seem to willfully ignore.
     
  10. Exiled

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    i cant wait ... meanwhile HB , check this HPV image

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  11. s land balla

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    I'm currently in Saudi Arabia for work and the link isn't working.

    Go figure.
     
  12. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I wouldn't trust this guys - notice the text is not part of what is there with the link. The show has not aired but a quick google shows he is pulling info from right-wing blogs. Who knows how they are spinning it.
     
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    I don't know about all trade, but let's start with halting all weapons and spare parts for the hundreds of billions of other armaments we have sold them. Of course we might have to cut back on oil imports from them, too as that is part of the oil for arms trade we do with this ridiculous dictatorship.
     
  15. hlcc

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    Other countries such as UK, Russia will gladly fill the void. The Saudi arms deals are extremely lucrative, they always overpay by a very significant margin (part of that overpay will go back to the Saudi royal family as kickbacks)
     
  16. Exiled

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    Its terrifying some may actually serve on a jury service duty with this combination of poor judgement and prejudice noted previously in this forum. Its not less to someone having a negative harsh opinion of America thousands of miles away based on shallow knowledge

    2 out of 3 criteria must be met before reaching a verdict of-capital punishments:

    1-voluntary confession, 2-multiple -reliable eye witness , 3- substantial forensic evidence


    -and if someone question the public arena execution display , then you must know its intentional

    to sway and deter potential criminals from attempting future crimes . Otherwise , they end up in similar situation to whats in the USA, highest percentage in incarceration/rate of crime.
    https://crimelab.uchicago.edu/page/incarceration

    To avoid typical conspiracy theories, such as :Osama bin Laden death conspiracy theories

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden_death_conspiracy_theories

    based on little info viewed from different website , this media work failed the minimal credible work ethics , filled with bias , enriched on social media clips that been served in the region , milled ,filled with intentional misinform the public .

    -the women who was executed in public used a very cruel method to kill her step daughter . Not unlikely such incident wont happen somewhere else

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3164921/Detroit-mother-killed-2-kids-no-parole-sentence.html

    [youtube]MS74q4QP2Tg[/youtube]

    or this case
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-love-bodies-jumping-death-inquest-hears.html

    as for the 5 people executed and hanged on crane ,they were organize criminals members , they were aggravated armed rob homes, killed a few victims , they were on a hunt for a while before they were caught . The hypocrisy we are in a country each grocery store can use a gun to protect it self from robbery, under self-defence terms without a trail but its awful when a grand jury in Saudi Arabia does!!!

    [youtube]/-MPMG3hWmMk[/youtube]

    -compare crime rate in USA vs. KSA , percentage wise its about 12 times higher in the US on every category .

    Finally , lets compare beheading someone when death accomplished within a few seconds ,

    vs. lethal injection which may take in some cases 2 HOURS!!!
     
  17. Exiled

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    -the most lethal weapons purchased from China /Pakistan , which they were reluctant to use it even against Saddam

    -most so called smart -weapons (self directed or high accuracy/proximity purchased from the West)

    -high price tag mainly due to the term( technology transfer) upon making a trade. google it.

    -most deals with West to improve trade balance deficit ( almost 800 billion with the US alone)

    -cutting arm deal is a favour to the Saudis ./meanwhile , China is no.1 partner on all categories (whose not now-days).

    -Dont underestimate local production, just becuse they dont make a fuss about it
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    Why would anyone trust crime statistics coming from Saudi with the horror stories of how Saudis treat South Asian migrant workers?

    Anyways, your entire point is moot when someone like me would be sentenced to death in Saudi for simply denoncing Islam.

    Raif Badawi's situation would never happen in a Western Democracy today. People are still being lashed and jmprosened for ****jng blasphemy in the year 2016 in Saudi. That's pathetic.
     
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    you are supposed to know in a grown up world , there is nothing like absolute freedom, or complete given rights if its not convenient for different reasons , google Red Scare , McCarthyism to this day of Guantanamo Bay detention camp.


    there is a scene in this despicable Documentary in which a man pushed away a women, it was an angry South Asian guy who did it , last time i checked to what happen to him, he was't on death raw .


    going back to Raif Badawi , its a testimonial to the Saudi's good behavior when their political prisoners can be numbered . when there is 67,000 political Palestinian prisoners held , or million who are under siege , name any country in the region and you 'll get astonishing figures .

    as for your comments of : how can we trust their figures , well, for you unless somethings bashing Muslims, you wont believe anyway , but try to get a grasp info from neutral source like World Transparency Index



    by the way , could't come in better time , a Filipino expat made this tribute after her departure recently

    [youtube]f6Lfnq_nkNY[/youtube]
     
  20. hlcc

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    what BS are you spouting this time.

    The high price tags & massive overpays for most Saudi arms deals is due to kickbacks to the royal family, not some BS about practically non-existent tech transfers. The price tag that Saudi Arabia paid for the F-15SA from Boeing & Typhoon from BAE is so high that they are in the same price range as a F-22.
     

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