Well football is a whole different animal, i wouldnt use that comparison... Although i agree sometimes in basketball there's exceptions, in this case the OP isn't saying he's solid in certain areas...he's saying he's elite, as in this very moment. It's very rare when undrafted NBA players are already elite in certain areas, especially offensively. they usually break through after gaining significant experience and learning more at the pro level. Ish? He's in his rookie year and barely in his second game of significant playing time. Way too early to consider him elite in anything, especially when he hasnt even played half the league. Maybe if it was free throw shooting, since that's more automatic for a player and not influenced as much by defense or outside factors.
way early to tell, Ish has to keep up his good work, practice his shot and his defense, Rondo is certainly a good example to follow. now let's see how he fares against Billups, Nash, Deron, Parker, Chris, then that will give you an accessment.
he didnt get drafted cause his small and couldnt shoot... we dont need him to score... and his the same size as AB.. many player undrafted but make it...
Rockets bound to trade him before giving him a chance to grow, and will then regret it in 3 or 4 years
1) He hasn't put himself in too many situations where is he is going 1 on 1, 90% of his dribble penetrations come off a pick and roll, and that is the way it should be. 2) He has a feel for the game that is just natural, the thing is that he makes good decisions on his drives, I don't feel he forces things when they are not there. If he is cut off on his drives, as all guards are, he makes good decisions.
Yes....and there's some pgs who are small and do well in the nba, just like there's some who cant shoot and still do well in the nba, but what about both? Not many make it with both those disadvantages. Why? Because they can be controlled after a while. Jkidd doesnt have to shoot well when he's big enough to post pgs and can also attack the rim decently. Nash doesnt have to be very big and athletic when he can create space to shoot with his handles. Rondo, who is a better comparison to Ish, was able to overcome his shooting problem because he can actually take it to the rim, rather than just look to pass and throw the occasional runner.
Ish is the Real Deal. He possesses one trait that is extremely rare. The ability to change rhythm. The ones that do, often don't possess the speed of Ish. Speed + Rhythm control = Elite potential I also like how he is well-spoken and seems to have a solid head on his shoulders. <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/TZyQqrNQWWw?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/TZyQqrNQWWw?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object> Larry Brown spoke some high praises on the guy: Predraft Larry Brown on Ish Now obviously, all of the potential in the world is going to become useless if he converts at his current rate. His college FG% of 42% is not the most inspiring either, but Ish looks like he fits the mold of many of our other players. An incomplete, but highly talented in one area style of player. Just because of size his defense will be limited (but pretty decent so far), and a shot is actually pretty difficult to improve, but he has an awesome talent that fits very well with our roster. What Ish does is add a second option to our offense. While it has generally been prudent to set up the high post before anything else, the option of beginning the offense from Ish is now a possibility. How effective this remains will be noted when defenses begin to adjust and sag off of him and how well he is able to convert when this happens. Even in the best case scenario of him being a Rondo-lite-lite, he won't have the luxury of 3 All-star options to cover for him. No matter what, it will be interesting to see what the future hold for this guy.
Adelman actually complimented him on his defense in the post-game interview. Said he's a solid defender that keeps his man in front of him. You don't hear coaches say that too often about rookies. Bodes well.
i'm not saying he should, but that it's in those situations that you can really tell how good of a ball handler a player is. If you're in the open court it's much easier to use your momentum and court length to your advantage. Same with the pick and roll. He's not putting the moves on anyone just using the pick. It's good that he hasnt had, but that means he hasnt had a lot of pressure on him directly, so how can one tell he's an elite ball handler? I like him as a player and future back up point...im only pointing out his flaws because many arent realizing teams have yet to make adjustments for him. Its not uncommon for a new player to come on the scene and play well and then come back down to earth after teams get a chance to scout him more closely, especially the athletic guys.
I think Ish is a special talent with regard to court-vision/passing ability. He's lightning quick and knows how to control the tempo. I've never been that much of an AB fan, but he has been the best we had (marginally). Now, however, I believe that Ish's skill-set makes AB expendable. True, his shot is not on par with AB, but the advantages outweigh the disadvantages IMHO. He's got a few weeks to prove himself so we'll see if he can keep it up. I hope so.
AB shoots too much. I know he is accurate but he should be the 5th option on offense. Were so loaded and can get more layups than we do, but AB is always looking for his shot. Other teams know this and it hurts us in late in games. AB is creating a chemistry problem that disappeared 2nd half/OT last night, tonight, and any time Lowry is PG.
AB without shooting the ball is useless. What else can he do? Play making? He is an SG with server limitations physically. I hope RA knows what to do with him.
Ish has done well. He does need to always think pass first/create opportunities for others and develop a consistent jumper. I think he should sit down and study Rondo film all day and emulate his similar game.
That is called, controlling tempo. Making intelligent decisions, consistently probing the defense, and getting your finishers involved, is collectively amassed to "Tempo". Ish has been absolutely fantastic at playing defense, and is absolutely controlling tempo. Brad Miller Ben Wallace Avery Johnson Udonis Haslem David Wesley John Starks Bruce Bowen You can find starters on championship teams, that were never drafted.
