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Is Yao a top 25, top 15, top 10 player in the league right now?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by oliver_67, Mar 7, 2004.

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Is Yao a top player in the league right now?

  1. Top 25

    118 vote(s)
    15.3%

  2. Top 15

    236 vote(s)
    30.5%

  3. Top 10

    397 vote(s)
    51.4%

  4. Well, top 50 at the best

    22 vote(s)
    2.8%
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  1. montgo

    montgo Member

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    Just imagine if the rocks had 15 turns instead of 30 and now imagine how points Yao would have had agains the Mavs?

    35-40?

    If this team would learn how to pass and then Yao could learn positioning and not moving as much, he would be a top 5 player for certain....
     
    #41 montgo, Mar 8, 2004
  2. PhiSlammaJamma

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    I'd like to drop a bomb in here, Ewing.

    Top 10.
     
    #42 PhiSlammaJamma, Mar 8, 2004
  3. oliver_67

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    I am really talking about where Yao is right now and I don't thinks it's fair to use his whole season stat to validate your point.

    At the beginning of the season, Yao could not find his shooting touch after the weight he put on in the off season. And the team was making some adjustments under JVG. I'd rather use his stats after his personal breakout game against the Timbervolves back in Jan to evaluate him. And of course, his recent performance tremendously elated his stock in the league and we might have witnessed the true transition from a SF team to a Yao team. In the past 3 games, I have never seen his teammates work so hard and give him the ball (although we have still problems doing that), and this was against Lakers, Timber, and Mavericks. Remarkable.

    Using his performance in the last 2 months, I think it's clear that he belongs to top 15 at worst, and an argument can be made for top 10.
     
    #43 oliver_67, Mar 8, 2004
  4. Yetti

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    At this moment there are '10 ' Rockets Fans voting that Yao Ming is only a top '50' at best.I am not one of them!
     
    #44 Yetti, Mar 8, 2004
  5. room4rentsf

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    I voted top 15.. there are still other players that have more of an impact on their teams and on opposing teams but Yao is right on the cusp. He needs to learn to become more consistent and his stamina needs to improve, he cant be great if they cant play him.

    If he picked up a few more rebounds and blocks a game and maintained his current scoring he would become top 5 in now time.

    J
     
    #45 room4rentsf, Mar 8, 2004
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    Peja Stojakovic
     
    #46 pangzi, Mar 8, 2004
  7. Willis25

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    for people saying Peja, Brand, J. O'neal, etc. I would suggest that you keep stats out of it and look at impact and the way teams have to scheme for you on the floor.

    even a Stephen Jackson can put up amazing stats - when he is the only option.
     
    #47 Willis25, Mar 8, 2004
  8. rhester

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    How about looking at it this way- how many players are there you would trade Yao straight up for right now?

    Duncan
    Garnett
    McGrady (maybe- have to think about it)
    Lebron or Carmello (no, don't think so)
    Shaq (nope age got him)
    Kobe (if I'm not thinking clearly)

    I think Yao has pretty high value right now
     
    #48 rhester, Mar 8, 2004
  9. kaivin20

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    stats wise, Yao is topped about at 16-17:

    Ranks #18 in the NBA in Rebounds Per Game(8.7)
    Ranks #3 in the NBA in Field-Goal Percentage(0.539)
    Ranks #16 in the NBA in Blocks Per Game(1.76)
    Ranks #18 in the NBA in Free Throws(272.0)
    Ranks #19 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts(342.0)
    Ranks #18 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds(395.0)
    Ranks #18 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per Game(6.4) Ranks #19 in the NBA in Total Rebounds(541.0)
    Ranks #17 in the NBA in Blocks(109.0)
    Ranks #18 in the NBA in Double-doubles(24.0)
    Ranks #16 in the NBA in Field Goals Per 48 Minutes(9.62)
    Ranks #15 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes(6.46)
    Ranks #14 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts Per 48 Minutes(8.12)
    Ranks #16 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes(9.4)
    Ranks #19 in the NBA in Total Efficiency Points(1281.0)
    Ranks #6 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes(30.42)
     
    #49 kaivin20, Mar 8, 2004
  10. meh

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    So by this argument, if a player ranks #2 straight across the board, then he's the 2nd best player in the NBA? :p
     
    #50 meh, Mar 8, 2004
  11. superpro

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    Silentfan banned? Great news!

    No wonder the board is gainning some respect again.
     
    #51 superpro, Mar 8, 2004
  12. dwmyers

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    His efficiency rating per 48 minutes is rated 6th. But his total efficiency is, iirc, around 19th.

    As his minutes rise, he'll be in the top 10 in term of total output. He's not entirely there yet.

    Dave.
     
    #52 dwmyers, Mar 8, 2004
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    That coming from you Yetti, is like saying 1 + 1 = 2.
     
    #53 MFW2310, Mar 8, 2004
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    And no player rank number one because that requires a player ranks #1 in every category. :D
     
    #54 fasthand2000, Mar 8, 2004
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    I think Amare is still better than Yao Ming.
     
    #55 amare, Mar 9, 2004
  16. RocketForever

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    We have know what you think from your name already. You don't hav to actually tell it. ;)
     
    #56 RocketForever, Mar 9, 2004
  17. Panda

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    Yao scores 1.44 points per shot at #6 in the league. Amare scores 1.32 points per shot at #20 in the league. Amare score 1.5 points more than Yao because he takes more shots at a much lower efficiency. Yao is also better than Amare in most of the categories. Houston is at 36-26. Phoenix is at 21-42. Every GM will choose Yao over Amare at the same price.
     
    #57 Panda, Mar 9, 2004
  18. pacertom

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    I'd put Yao in the 7-10 range. This coming from a non-Rockets fan, so no homerism is involved.

    Garnett, Duncan, Shaq are on their own level.

    Kobe, Kidd, McGrady are on the next level.

    Then comes the Yao level, which also includes Iverson, Nowitski, Kirilenko, Brand, Peja, Pierce, and Jermaine O'Neal.

    Personally I'd take Yao over all of the guys in that last group, which makes him #7.
     
    #58 pacertom, Mar 9, 2004
  19. daoshi

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    Glad to know you do have some self confidence!;)
     
    #59 daoshi, Mar 9, 2004
  20. oliver_67

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    Ask all 29 GMs in the league that question. I think that the Suns are willing to offer Amare + Marion + Johnson for Yao and the Rockets still won't pull the trigger.
     
    #60 oliver_67, Mar 9, 2004
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