Is Willson Contreras Worth Giving up the 2nd Round Pick?

Nope. He doesn’t deserve taking up $$ for Altuve, Bregman, Tucker or Valdez either and butchering the lineup.

Great hitter (as a catcher, sure) but he will make the pitching staff substantially worse and he’s an average hitter as a position player and we could get the same production from someone not projected at 21 mil AAV.

It’s potental signings like this that shorten dynasties.

 

I voted yes

But that basically is " not automatically NO"

Draft picks are just that

Would you give up Grae Kessinger for him?

 

I wouldn't have a problem losing any of these 2nd round picks over the last several years for Contreras.

2019 2 SS Grae Kessinger
2018 2 66 RHP Jayson Schroeder Juanita HS, Kirkland, Wash.
2017 2 53 3B Joe Perez Archbishop McCarthy
2017 2 56 RHP Corbin Martin Texas A&M
2016 2 61 OF Ronnie Dawson Ohio State
2015 2 46 RHP Tom Eshelman Cal State Fullerton
2014 2 42 1B AJ Reed Kentucky
2013 2 40 RHP Andrew Thurman UC Irvine
2012 2 61 SS Nolan Fontana

 

At the right price, absolutely

 

Let's see, his .815 OPS would have been 4th on the team, just ahead of Tucker

Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes again

 

With tha quickness!

 

Scale 1-10

Rank Maldy and Willson's Defense / Handling of a pitching staff

Machete seems 8 / 9

Sanchez seemed 2 / 5

Realmuto seemed 8 / 7

Other posters also mentioned Contreras could affect the future signings of Altuve, Tucker, Valdez, etc

 

They'd be just fine next year as a tandem

 

As long as the plan is for him to catch a lot in October I'm OK with it. The offensive upgrade would be huge.

If we're paying him that much just to start a quarter of our games I'm less OK with the signing. His career OPS is much better in the first half, perhaps having him catch part time for most of the season will allow him to carry those numbers throughout.

The 2nd round pick means very little to me in the grand scheme compared to the monetary investment, which would be the real risk.

 

You’ve got 2-3 years before really hard decisions have to made. Currently you’re in a great spot across the roster and can afford some big $ shorter duration deals as we’ve seen handed out. Crane is absolutely doing the right thing going all in post WS win to bolster the lineup. Winning another 1 or 2 cements this dynasty as one of the greatest ever in the history of MLB. That opportunity isn’t worth a 2nd round pick?

I fully expect Contreras to be signed and one of Conforto, Bellinger or Brantley too.

 

Not a Benintendi fan?

 

sounded like the plan is mainly LF, and spot starts at C.

 

Benintendi all day long. Sign him to just 3 years and $45 million tops (most likely less). You get a solid bat and an outstanding defender in LF. And you don't give up a draft pick.

Or this could get into a bidding war in which we sign Contreras to 4 years $85 million. Now no one here in their right mind thinks that's an outstanding deal. Y'all speak of Contreras like he's Yordan Alvarez at the plate. I don't know where that's coming from. He's a really good hitting productive CATCHER. That's it.

 

I am under the impression it is more

50-60g catcher
50-60 DH
25-30 LF

I am liking it more and more.

 

God yes. How is this even a question? It’s so bizarre to me.
You are talking about giving up a pick one what- the 70’s or 80’s by the time all the comp
picks are made? Go back and look at any redraft 5 or 10 years later. There’s typically 2 or 3 allstars 10 or 15 other good players, 10 guys you might sort of remember if they didn’t play for your team and after you get past 35 or so
Players guys that had, at most, a cup of coffee.
There’s 20 rounds in the draft. If you are getting serious value out of a player beyond about the 15th pick it’s a crap shoot and you could just as easily get that player in round 17 as round 2.
There is almost nothing more overvalued by baseball fans on the internet than losing the draft pick for signing a kick ass FA. 110 times out of 100 you do it. the imputed value of that pick is just not important.

 

Benni is getting 4/65 from someone I bet.

 

i like it too for sure. seems like if you sign him, you almost have to sign brantley for value and hope for the best.

end result of all this would be chas mccormick being the world's luckiest baseball player lol.