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Is TMac This Good?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaneB, Mar 24, 2007.

  1. dookiester

    dookiester Member

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    anybody questioning tmac's ability to put up 50 at will hasn't seen tmac on any team but the rockets. if he was on a scrub team like the lakers, tmac would probably be playing the same as he did in orlando, avg 30 points. if kobe were on the rockets, there is no way he puts up 50 in 4 straight games. if he did, people here would be screaming for his head because it means yao is probably scoring like 5 points.
     
  2. Sextuple Double

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    No he's not. But T-Mac is a better all around player. From a talent standpoint, they're even. Kobe has more of a killer instinct. T-Mac is more of a team-oriented player. That's all it is to it. For the record T-Mac can take and make tougher shots than Kobe and he has more range.
     
  3. doublehh03

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    of course not. tmac doesn't have the "shoot at all times" mentality that kobe does. kobe doesn't even try to get his teammates involved during this scoring run. he's been shooting over double teams.

    u can say his teammates aren't good but odom is shooting 60%+ and walton too. kobe is just not looking for them.

    but really, scoring 4 times 50+ jordan couldn't even do. how do u expect tmac to do?

    but getting teammates involved, tmac is on another level than kobe.
     
  4. demon77

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    the old t-mac maybe, but definitely not the current one. I think physically the old t-mac is at the same lvl, but isn't as mentally tough as kobe. There is simply no comparison atm.
     
  5. doublehh03

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    i agree. as much of a tmac fan as i am, tmac can't score like crazy as much anymore. most likely he's letting yao take control and score when he has to. but i think he can still be a 30ppg score EASY if he wanted to. he averaged 28ppg w/o yao. but scoring 50+ like kobe, not a chance. kobe's on another level.

    but again, kobe is doing this and BARELY winning. he's not getting his teammates involved.

    we'll see next friday. i'm sure tmac WILL be motivated. since it's on national TV too :D . and i'll be at the game in my tmac jersey ;)
     
  6. monkeyboy32

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    Kobe is just a more dedicated player, and you can see that through his progressions throughout his career. Physically there isnt a more gifted player in the league than Tmac, but it seems he doesnt work on his game as much. Just take a look at his FTs. Alot of people dont realize it, but Tmac is 6-10 yet he doesnt have any kind of post up game. If he did, I dont think there is anyone in league who could guard him.
     
  7. doublehh03

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    if u follow him, tmac's back problems have been bad since the 02-03 season. it's hard for him to really develop his post game and bang down low.

    the sad thing aobut tmac is his back. had he not have this, i'm sure he would be a more physically imposing player and thus a more dominant player, and i would argue the clear-cut best player in the L. but it is what it is.

    tmac's game is now perimeter-oriented b/c of his back.
     
  8. dafatha00

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    I would take T-Mac any day of the week.

    There's no doubt that Kobe is the most prolific scorer in the league today, but the reason he scores so much is because he does so at the expense of his own teammates. Kobe is not the type of player that would ever defer to anyone, even if it would be best for the team, whereas T-Mac takes full advantage of our dominant low post presence and doesn't mind taking a back seat to Yao. In other words, T-Mac's desire to win is greater than his desire to put up big numbers each night. I'm not saying that Kobe isn't trying to win, but I do believe that because he's already won three championships, he has a greater desire to break records than he does to win. I mean, there's a reason why Kobe is putting up 50+ points for four nights in a row. His goal is to try to break all these records.
     
  9. demon77

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    kobe have 3 ring, but most people tend to give majority of the credit to shaq. I could careless if kobe is selfish or not since those 50+ point game are all win & he shot at a really high FG%.

    I don't mind T-mac taking 40 shot a game if he can shoot at that high %.
     
  10. Tenchi

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    Now gentleman, let me ask you this:

    What if TMac was 14 inches tall and the Rockets plane was delayed for a game and it was only TMac versus the Lakers? What would the score be?

    My prediction.. at game's end, uh.. there wil be two teams of contrasting moods heading off the court, my friends. One gloom, one gleeful. The gleeful, of which be.. Da Rockets! Mini TMac 100, Kobe and the Lakers 65.

    Because God is a huge Rockets fan and made TMac superior to all humans.
     
  11. tsunami

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    Wow, interesing, that's why TMac got NBA scoring champions twice?
     
  12. haven

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    No.

    Two years ago, I'd have said yes. McGrady's back problems affect him constantly, even when he's fairly healthy. He misses quite a few layups on plays where he'd have dunked it in the past.
     
  13. demon77

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    I think we are comparing the current T-Mac....
     
  14. cs_eric

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    A player is good if he can lead the team to win and every teamate is happy for what has done and contributed, not scores 81pts and let other teamates socre only 20pts
     
  15. tsunami

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    Who told you that? Or just your own speculation?
     
  16. roflmcwaffles

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    LOL Just as good.

    We all wish TMac was as good at Kobe (at basketball not raping girls).

    TMac would need 50 shots a game to do what kobe is doing, this guy scored 60 in 37 shots....

    TMac may not even be able to score 60 in a night anymore, maybe in his absolute prime (he may have also I am not sure).

    TMac is a very good player, but scoring wise Kobe is in a league all his own.
     
  17. demon77

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    who say they aren't happy, and who really give a damn? This is pro competition where u are paid to play (for the win), not for fun. That 81 point didn't come in like a blow out, it was when kobe was force to do so since thier team was down by double digit to the raptors in the 3rd quad.

    all those high score by kobe came when it was needed (for the win)
     
  18. JDMDC2

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    do you guys all remember when kobe went off and scored 40+pts a game that one year. Well TMAC had a similiar stretch that same year where he scored 35+pts for a longer stretch. I think TMAC was a much more explosive scorer when he was in orlando. If you Youtube TMAC and compare his orlando days to know you can see he is not as explosive. Back in orlando TMAC was better but not as a Rocket expcept maybe for the 03-04 season. I would still take TMac any day of the week. If you watch him closely now when he gets doubled at the top of the key on the pick and roll he has trouble getting pass the double team. He saw the same type of double team in Orlando but just blew passed them. So to answer your question

    TMAC ORLANDo>KOBE
    TMAC ROCKET<KOBE
     
  19. dafatha00

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    You really think Kobe isn't trying to break these scoring records? It must be pure coincidence that he's putting up 50 points a night and that he's doing it unintentionally right? Seems pretty obvious to me.
     
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  20. smeiou78

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    McGrady is an all-around player, and that's why I would choose him over Kobe any day. Notice that Kobe had all of ONE assist last night, and that only came after he scored 50. However, Mac's accuracy isn't as good as Kobe's, so he probably wouldn't be able to score the way Kobe has been scoring.
     

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