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Is this the last we will see of Carlos Correa?

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by what, Oct 16, 2020.

  1. Tuckankhamun

    Tuckankhamun Member

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    7.0 WAR/162 Shortstops at 27 get the brinks truck.
     
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  2. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    I continue to maintain that Anthony Rendon's 7-year $245 million contract is an excellent comp for what Correa will get. Rendon was coming off a huge performance in the 2019 World Series and also plays a premium defensive position at a very high level. Correa's defense is better than Rendon, but Rendon's offense is better. Rendon was 2 years older than Correa is now at the time of his contract signing. Correa has a worse injury history than Rendon. Net net, you have a very similar value. Correa's ultimate contract will hinge on how many teams show interest.
     
  3. noxiousdog

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    Only 2 of his 7 years has he played more than 110 games.
     
  4. YOLO

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    he's worth everything he's about to get
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Rendon is a third baseman vs Short Stop that as you said was 2 years older when he signed the contract. Rendon has a career WAR lower than Correa even though he has played 2 more years. Correa has reached 7 WAR twice in his career while Rendon has only done it once. Rendon's contract is the floor for Correa.

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    I forgot to add that Rendon is an average defender at third while Correa is an elite defender at the most important defensive position that isn't the pitcher.
     
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  6. noxiousdog

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    Rendon is way better than Correa offensively and had won three MVPs.

    I don't doubt that someone will give him that; I'm just saying it's a bad deal.
     
  7. noxiousdog

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    There's a lot of bad deals in baseball. It only takes one bad GM or a mass market team with more money than they can reasonably spend.

    It would make sense for the Angels for example. They love bad deals, but he'd be a huge upgrade over Iglasias.
     
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  8. Tuckankhamun

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    Jose Altuve seems to be working out after we extended him. 4+ WAR seasons every full season since 2017. 7-245 would be a bargain for Carlos, it encompasses the rest of his productive years at SS and we’re unlikely to contend by the end of the deal, so it won’t hold us back.
     
  9. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Two additional things to add
    1. The fact that Rendon has severely underperformed his contract, fairly or unfairly, does not bode well for Correa's contract going higher. The Angels no doubt regret entering into that deal.
    2. Rendon's contract was based in California - impact of higher taxes must be weighed. A Texas-based deal could be lower priced by 13% to achieve the same after-tax impact, something that Correa has already acknowledged in his interview with the Puerto Rico radio station. And with all the talk about how to tax the ultra-wealthy coming out of DC, it's just a matter of time before some of the left-leaning states crank up the tax rate further on athletes. They'll have to find ways to pay for their spending... If I were an athlete, I'd hesitate before signing a big deal in CA/NY/IL... Taxes are only going up there.
     
  10. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    That doesn't make my post not true.
     
  11. YOLO

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    tipjar bet Correa get a bigger deal than Rendon's?
     
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    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Sure. Since we don't know that the number of contract years will be apples-to-apples, I'll wager that Correa's deal is less than $35 million/year. Let me know how much you are comfortable wagering.
     
  13. YOLO

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    that doesn't really matter to me. you say rendon's deal doesn't bode well for correa getting higher. And I think he gets higher than his total. simple as that. the /year is irrelevant
     
  14. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Obviously you can't compare an 8 year deal to a 7 year deal. I interpret your post as a way of backing out of the bet.
     
  15. YOLO

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    im going off what you clearly said in your post. "does not bode well for Correa getting higher" if you want to alter it thats on you. It's just that simple and crystal clear what that says.

    This didn't need to be some ironing of details. if not, then i take it as you don't really believe what you posted. And thats enough for me
     
  16. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    You backed out once it dawned on you that Correa isn't getting $35 million/year. No problem, but it needs to be acknowledged.
     
  17. YOLO

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    not really. you had to adjust your post. that's on you not me. i got it though. you just talk thats it. just like most. moving on
     
  18. jjsmooth

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    I wanna play: what will be the Astros final offer?
    I'm gonna guess 8 yr / $210M
     
  19. YOLO

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    no idea what the stros final offer will be but I believe correa gets more than rendon's deal
     
  20. jjsmooth

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    In just about every scenario he will get more. But.... the effect of the inevitable lockout may surprise us all
     

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