Is this the first thread dedicated to Jackie Butler?

Are you honestly gonna tell me that you would rather have Yao than any of the guys you just mentioned? I wouldn't.

 

I'd LOVE to see Nate Robinson block Yao from the front. A weakside block is very easy to do, I could've blocked Yao Ming in that situation. If you want to see the success of weakside blocking, look up Kirilenko, a top weakside blocker. If you want to see a great overall shotblocker, look at Ben Wallace. You're argument that being blocked by someone 5'9'' keeps you from being the best Center in the world is absolutely ridiculous. Get me in a five on five game with Yao Ming on the opposite team, and I'll get a block on him if he tries to play his back on someone. Stick Shaq in there and I'll get one two. Stick ANYONE with their back on someone, have them try a turnaround, and I'll be up there waiting. That's all it takes. I'm 6'0'' and I can dunk. Athleticism will get you your blocks, but denying Yao's skill is borderline r****ded. What other Center, pray tell, is better than Yao Ming?

 

Look at the post above...Smiting names 4.

 

Wow, way to define 'rookie', rookie.

 

Duncan is not a PF. Shaq is old and done (See Houston vs. Miami early last season where Yao DOMINATED him like a girl). Amare plays Center, but plays more like a PF, has no post-up game, and is about 75% reliant on Nash. Dwight Howard can't hit a shot further than 5 Ft from the basket, but is a much better rebounder due to supreme athletic ability.

As far as who I'd rather have as a franchise center, well, let's see,
do I want someone about to retire, plagued by injuries, and a shell of his former self? No, scratch Shaq. Do I want a PF for a C? No, scratch Duncan and half of Amare. Do I have Nash? No, scratch the rest of Amare. Do I want a guy that can only score by dunking the ball? No, scratch Howard.

I'll take Yao, thanks.

 

Err, I meant Duncan is not a C. Whatever.

 

I would take Duncan, but he plays PF, likes to play PF, and repeatedly calls himself a PF, so he's out of consideration for the best center in the NBA. I would absolutely take Yao over Amare, Shaq, or Dwight Howard. Yao is better than all three of those players.

(Before anyone tries to tell me how dominant Shaq was, I know how dominant he was. He's not dominant now; he is past is prime and declining.)

 

you are right...he sucks.

i remember when dream was blocked by kj. that was the end of dream's career. he had hall of fame talent until then.

 

Sure, you might take Dwight Howard, Amare, or Shaq over Yao, but then you wouldn't be a Rockets fan, you'd be a Magic/Suns/Heat fan. I'd expect that out of fans of those teams but no way would I ever think a Rockets fan would say that.

Now in a language that you can understand, what if I said I'd take Paul Pierce, Vince Carter, or Ray Allen over McGrady? You'd probably say I was nuts. I say the same to you.

 

Just cuz I'm a rookie on this board doesn't mean I'm a rookie to basketball.

My bad everyone, Yao does have a better FT% than all those guys. He is best center in the world.

 

Thanks for trying to keep the thread on track. Interesting comments from you and blazer_ben. Do you think Butler can box out and rebound? I know it's hard to tell fom just one game but I wanted to get your opinion as well.

 

We explained to you why Yao is better than the other guys, and all you have is "Nate Robinson blocked Yao". I know this board frowns on calling people haters, but you're simply a Yao hater. You're not even willing to have an honest discussion about Yao's strengths and flaws. All you want to do is repeat like a parrot: "Nate Robinson blocked Yao."

I find it hard to believe that one can hate a non-disgruntled superstar a team that you are a fan of, so I must conclude that you are not a Rockets fan either.

 

I only said that Robinson blocked Yao once. Just cuz other people quoted it doesn't mean I posted it that many times.

Yao Ming
Strengths
-Size
-Decent defense, shot blocker
-Has good range
-Has decent moves around the basket
-Good FT shooter

Weaknesses
-Not too light on his feet
-Has barely any vertical (may not need it though)
-Gets pushed around down low
-Turnover prone
-Might not be the best piece in Adelman's offense

 

We might not even resign Deke since we got Butler, depending on how good he really is Yao might get more rest time or whatever. BTW:

 

I've been very impressed with Jackie Butler so far. I think he may be capable of handling the backup center minutes on his own.

 

Now I explained already why Yao is superior to the other guys, aside from Duncan, who is a PF. Your reason for why Yao is not the best center in the NBA is because Nate Robinson blocked him, and "I would take the other guys over him" which is a really subjective and meaningless statement. You need to try harder than that, although I suspect as you try to justify why the other guys are better more Yao hate will spew out in the process.

 

To be fair AMD is giving an exampel of why he thinks yao is supposedly soft. he is'nt saying yao is'nt the best center because he got blocked by a midget. he i saying has issues with alot of things like Turnovers, pace and so on. however yao is 7'6 and 320 pounds. it's a chore to just move that from A to B. however when you wheigh up the Pro's and cons of yao's game, one should come to the conclusion that yao is clearly the best C in the game. Yao prior to that horrific knee injury was probaly the most devestating big in the game. he was having games like 39 points 17 boards and 6 blocks.he was in another planet.

 

AMD is just expressing an opinion, lighten up.

There are many around here who think Tmac is better than Wade and Lebron. I think Tmac is great but they are crazy biased. Does that make me less of a Rocket fan?

 

But an opinion of Yao being less than the aforementioned centers based on "one block" by freaking Nate Robinson?