To use the quote above, Yes. And that, in part, is why there is so much contempt for the middle. Liberals are contemptuous of the middle for seemingly buying the Republican story hook, line, and sinker. Republicans are contemptuous of the middle because they are seemingly too stupid to recognize what is best for the country and so they have to be mislead into doing what is best... to be determined, naturally, by Republicans.
Moderate conservative here... I tend to agree that this board is more "liberal" than "conservative". Or maybe the liberals tend to speak out more on political issues.
There have been previous attempts to measure the board, either using the poll feature or simple listing/show of hands type-things. lmost always the two labels are close in number. And, yes, the "conservatives are way outnumbered" claim was made long before Bush took office. Personally, I don't know which side is bigger nor do I care. I don't need the reinforcement or a claim of an overwhelming enemy against whom i tirelessly battle, despite the odds against me.
The conservative contingent was weakened greatly in quantity, if not quality, by the erratic appearances of Treeman and JohnHeath, who would both simultaneously appear, post exclusively in D&D at a furious pace for short stints, and then submerge mysteriously for a while. Very odd indeed.
Rimbo, you know as well as I do that those polls are worthless. In terms of activity level, not simply number of posters, the liberals *far* exceed the conservatives here. I personally can not post *anything* without an angry mob of lunatic fringers scurrying out of their holes to attack. Literally, every debate I enter into is a 6 on 1 battle. Were it not for my intellectual prowess, I would have difficulty beating back their rabid advances. I would also say that the level of frustration for the liberals drives them to post more. Face it, the DemonCrats are virtually powerless in today's political structure (with the notable exception of urban mayors). America has shifted to the right of center. The Republicans are organized and unified, while the DemonCrats are bickering amongst themselves. The liberals' policies have been rejected by the masses. This frustrates the left-wing faction within the Democratic party -- and you see this frustration manifested in the savage attacks from people like Batman Jones, andymoon, rimrocker, glynch and MacBeth.
It's not six on one man, we are here. But sometimes I agree (believe it or not) with the liberals on civil liberties and drug issues. In a lot of threads, I just don't even feel like bothering to argue because I know what is going to come next. And since most of the thread starters are the liberals and it is constant rain of "the war is going badly" or "new Bush scandal" threads, I just would assume not bother. But I salute your courage in taking on some of the more knuckleheaded liberals here, even in the face of increasingly vicious attacks. Ah, the smell of desperation, it is such a stinky cologne.
Lol! Okay, if I make any 'savage attacks', they're certainly not directed at you...at most all you get from me these days are mild rebukes, the way you would correct the poor behaviour of an energetic, clumsy, but essentially harmless puppy who keeps knocking over the dinner tray and thinking he just invented food. Case in point: I have stated quite a few times that I have voted Republican 5 of 6 times, including the last one. The most recent time I mentioned this was waaaay back, about 7 or 8 posts ago...how that qualifies me as a member in your version of the Democratic party sort of confirms the point I made about extremist conservatives. There, now that wasn't too savage, was it Spot? Nice dog...here's a biscuit...
MacBeth -- 1) I thought you were Canadian. Canadians don't vote for our President. 2) I base my characterization of you by your posts here, 99% of which blindly cling to the liberals' pet issues. 3) On an unrelated tangent, I continue to dominate you mentally.
It is all worthless, but that is not the point. In any event, why does it even matter? You obviously have cultivated the relationship. Otherwise I guess you would be lonely? Six on one better than talking to yourself? I, personally, would rather talk to myself, but to each his own.
1) Incorrect. I live here now, and have dual citizenship, but lived much of my life in the States, and still vote. 2) Point proven again. 3) Lol. Go chase a squirrel.
That clears up some issues here. Why don't you take that world's smallest political quiz? I'm curious to see where you'd rate on it.
Liberals usually feel the need to prove to everyone how smart they are; in this case they've chosen a 'discussion' forum on a basketball BBS to do it. People like BrianKagy and Mango (even Clutch posted for a while), HayesStreet, and even Jeff (who's liberal but non-partisan) used to post regularly, but I'm sure just gave up and got tired of it like me. This forum has been a joke for a while now, and that's all it's good for posting - jokes.
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do you really believe that??? liberals advocate what they believe, and that's it?? they're all genuine?? and republicans are all disingenuous?? you need a different shade of sunglasses, i think!
I was going to leave this alone until you called me out specifically, claiming that I am a part of the "left-wing faction within the Democratic party." Regarding your "intellectual prowess," I would point out that your "intellect" is limited to cliches and vitriolic attacks on the character of political figures or other posters. If you ever used any actual evidence to back up your claims, I would at least give you that credit, but you are, as I have said before, merely a Bush bobble head and apologist. You don't seem to have any ideas of your own, nor the ability to analyze information outside of the selective perception we are all used to. As far as me being in the far left wing, I can only surmise that this belief is related to your ability to ignore facts, data, and reality in favor of your own twisted view of the "facts." I am quite conservative on fiscal issues and even though I lean further left than you on social issues (as do Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, and Karl Rove), I am not even a Democrat (when measured by my voting tendencies). That should show you how skewed your opinions are (the fact that I have not voted for a Democratic presidential candidate in over a decade) but I am certain it will not due to your inability to process even the simplest information. Intellectual prowess? More like intellectual dishonesty.
We're here! We're conservative! Get used to it! I think it has more to do with which party is in power. I don't know about which side is more represented here but I do think the left posts more. I think it would be different if it was the Dems that had the House, Senate, and Presidency instead of the Repubs.
I'm talking about the Republicans in power... of course there are many decent Republicans, but they are not in power... these far-right neo-cons are in power and I'm saying they cannot advocate what they really believe in a way that would make it clear to everyone. Republicans have a strong message at their core--limited government, deficit reduction and sound fiscal policy, etc.-- that appeals to a lot of people, but when the party is taken over by these folks, that message is lost and the ideals are discarded in pursuit of power for the cabal, which knows they would be out in a heartbeat if they really talked about what they want in plain terms. On the Dem side, if you look at the candidates, there is the usual political misdirection at times, but the programs and policies presented are pretty straightforward... there is little shading and the language is reasonably plain.
4700 posts in 18 months and no ...ah, the edit function, saw your subsequent reply McB... as for blocking annoying popups, do this: -download the mozilla firebir browser -choose the "tools" menu/ "options" -click on "web features" and "block popup windows" enjoy popup free p*rn "research!" as to the thread topic: i think most poster's would probably define themselves as some shade of libertarian, and the results from little internet quizes that have been posted seem to support that. personally, i think i'm rather socially liberal, but on the conservative side economically and in foreign policy. i also have a strong contraian bent so i tend to disagree w/ whatever the prevailing view is. in NYC, that means one thing, but if i lived in Lexington, KY it might mean another. certainly during my college days in memphis i was perceived as being more liberal. i voted for carter and john anderson (that contrarian streak i mentioned). i also think that traditional definitions of conservative and liberal no longer fit. in the current environment, i think progressive (conservative) and reactionary (liberal) are much more accurate. progressives are much more likely to be open to radical experiments like tax cuts, the war in Iraq, etc. while reactionaries are more likely to favor the status quo. how you identify yourself also depends on which issues are most important to you. While I favor gay-marriage for instance and am pro-gun control, i'm also in favor of some restrictions on abortion and favor the death penalty. however, i'm more of a strict constructionist on constitutional issues, and am passionately against special interest politics. on economic issues i favor lower taxes, and less spending, so this admins record is mixed. the tax thing is more important to me tho. for this election cycle foreign policy is the overriding issue however, and in this instance i think Bush is right on target. lastly, there are personality traits, and i admire W's resolute and steadfast nature in the face of intense criticism. so different from the "previous administration."
