He would be a great back up for yao in the future but i don't want no one from that team except for gortat. How about Brian Cook for Gortat straight up :grin: :grin: :grin: Ain't happening.. but i wouldn't trade T-mac for nobody on the magic. The only equalvalent talent is D-HO and we already got a top tier center in Yao. T-mac's untouchable unless i would land a package that has an up and coming stardom. Or else i would rather collect his insurance money until his contract's up since i am pretty contend with what we have
I like his game a lot, but that is an incredible amount of money to play 6 mpg. WTF was Orlando thinking?
...but Gortat would not be the starting center. He'd be the backup behind Yao. That's too much to pay for a backup.
Exactly.....and whether he is a starting center or not is debatable, he would be on the Mavs because they have the 2nd best center in the world starting now. DD
I am a big Gortat fan and would love to have him on the Rockets. I believe the value that was paid for him was money well spent. When Howard doesn't play, Gortat has been a very good replacement usually averaging a double double. He has pretty good defensive skills and is an excellent rebounder and shot blocker. I would trade for Gortat, he will be an excellent back up for years to come and a good starter when Yao is not playing. Not sure why people would want Rashard Lewis, lol, now he is the definition of overpaid.
You have to give up something to get something obviously. Scola is 30 and Gortat is 25(?). You guy act when Yao comes back that he will be able to play 30-35 minutes a game. I dont think that is the case. We need to have a good solid defensive back up center on this team. Maybe we find on in the draft maybe we dont. But as someone pointed out Daryl Morey doesnt think Gortat is worth the MLE so whats the point of trading for him now based on financially not talent.
I wonder if Morey did think Gortat was worth the MLE. If remember correctly it was reported that he offered Gortat around 4M, correct? I'm assuming that the other money he had every intention to use it for Budinger and Taylor's 4 year deals so therefore he left roughly around 1.8M to have that money available. I'm thinking Ariza came up as a target after they found out about the Medical Exception application coming through. All in all, I think Morey is willing to take Gortat on considering that he is a good back up and a good starter if he needs to be. I don't consider himself to be an overpaid back up center considering that the Rockets have had a hard time finding a back up center that wasn't Mutombo. Also, the Rockets have not found a center through the draft. I truly believe that Gortat would be worth the risk and would give us a very solid line up going into the playoffs. Gortat is young and Yao is vulnerable (you heard Z, it took him two years to be pain free), so I believe Gortat would be an excellent back up and he would thrive in this system. He runs the floor well as well.
You guys talk like Chuck Hayes isn't proving to be a beast. With what he's doing defensively, I just simply don't even understand talk of needing a back up for Yao. We have one and he is one helluva back up.
Come playoff time we are going to need someone other than 6-6 chuck hays to help control the paint. Carl Landry is not Mutumbo to do it himself.
Chuck is doing great defensively. I love Chuck, doing a great job but that doesn't mean we don't need help. Sometimes length is going to overcome us and it would be great to have a player like Gortat. This by no means is to demote Chuck, but rather to provide even more depth to our front court.
I'd consider it. Unlike most here, I can place aside the whole post-win "We don't need em!" hogwash that permeates the GARM after a win and pollutes it after a loss. The guy is a starter in this league that puts up considerable numbers when given the minutes. Why else in the world would Orlando match his offer this past summer unless they knew they were about to lose an attractive asset for nothing? Do you think their plan was the pay the guy $6M per year to play 10 mins a night? Yeah, I don't think so.
Look at it this way: if the guy is a starter in this league (which I believe) and he's paid $6-8M per year, how is that not a BARGAIN for a 25-year-old with as much upside as he appears to have? Ariza is basically the same age and signed to the exact same contract. I think that one has worked out pretty well, wouldn't you agree? Bottom line: $6-8M per year is below the market value for a starter of his age. Mind you, this a league that vastly overpays for NBA bigs -- centers usually being the highest paid position. So in a league dominated by Tyson Chandlers and Sam Dalemberts making WAY more and being half the player, why exactly is this not a worthwhile proposition to consider? And before you respond with the inevitable "that's too much money for a backup" replies, I think it goes without saying that Yao seems to have a tendency to break his foot every year. At the most inopportune times, no less. I love Yao to death but we absolutely have to safeguard ourselves from another Yao injury destroying our season. Yeah, we're doing okay without either player this year but for as much as we all love Chuck, the elephant in the room is that we start a 6'6" center that's basically a complete zero offensively. With a rookie backup, no less. Depending upon what we give up in such a scenario, Gortat makes us a lot better. Furthermore, even if we get blessed with some good luck and Yao doesn't get hurt next year, Gortat is still useful as both a backup and in possible two center units against the likes of LA, SA, Portland and others who primarily use two trees in the frontcourt. Plus, (I hate to say it but...), it also gives us some flexibility with regards to Scola's future given his free agency status. Again, you hate to think that way but he does provide some security in that regard. Again, it obviously all depends on what Orlando's asking price is. It's not the perfect scenario but it is one that makes a lot of sense from our end.
Excellent post, I would rep you if I could. Boy I wish Magic wanted relief and they were willing to take Brian Cook and a future 2nd.
Yep. I wonder if Leslie is willing to spend though. It would definitely put us even more into luxury tax hell. I don't know, I really do like Gortat and I see potential in him. I guess in a way, I don't believe Yao is going to be the same player ever again and I feel we are going to need another big man than will do well and that Rick can help grow. I guess I see these moves as moving towards the future. You never know what might happen to Yao and quite frankly I don't want to pretend that everything is going to be okay after this surgery. It has become quite difficult to get good centers in this league and we definitely could use the size at some point.
i wonder what kind of contract morey was offering gortat. he had a very specific price. did that ever come out?
