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Is the dleague really the best way to progress rookies?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by teebone21, Jan 31, 2013.

  1. teebone21

    teebone21 Member

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    I am noticing alot of rookies on better teams than the rockets getting alot of PT and even in staring lineups. out of the 2.5 rookies drafted it looks bad that none of them are even sniffing the court until less than 2 minutes left in a blowout. IT seems from watching various teams that playing on their drafted teams in real games is getting them quickly accustomed to the teams scheme instead of traveling back and forth to dleague. Chandler was the exception last season but rockets havent had real progess from sending rookies to and from the dleague.

    Example" 2011 draft . marcus morris was our 14th pick, but the following players after him got quality minutes after their rookie years and have now progressed faster than marcus.
    K. Leonard
    N. Vucevic
    I. Shumpert
    C. Singleton
    K. Faried
    J. Hamilton
    N. Cole
    J. Butler ( chicagos best on ball defender)

    Dmo was in this draft also at #20 but he still cant get 11 minutes a game:rolleyes:
    Our track record with draft picks has been lackluster due to moreys approach to statictics. What do you guys think?
     
  2. SK34

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    Butler is not their best on ball defender... its Deng.. And its a great place to progress the rookies when you don't have anything for them to do with the Rockets at the moment.
     
  3. SuperBeeKay

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    you handpicked players to meet your criteria. Far more players that haven''t panned out given the pt.
     
  4. Carl Herrera

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    Chicken and egg. These guys got NBA minutes because they were quicker to become ready to play. Morris didn't get NBA minutes because he was slower to learn the NBA game.


    Blaming D-league for slower progress is like blaming special ed classes for causing your kid to have special needs.

    If you want to compare Marcus Morris' DLeague route vs. getting minutes in NBA, why don't you find a better example to compare him to, like a guy with almost identical genetic material, raised by the same parents and played on the same youth teams who got NBA minutes as a rookie? Can't we find someone like that?
     
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    "We have a deep roster so it's hard to crack the rotation."

    BWAHAHAHAHA!
     
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    yes i left out 3 players that are now in regular rotations with there teams who didnt play rookie year. check the draft board
     
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    so Dmo and Joes are slow as well? we gotta stop drafting stupid players
     
  9. Rockets2K

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    You would rather they got their playing time never?

    Unless the team in question is aiming for the lottery, you dont put rookies in "so they can develop in real games"....but yet rookies need actual game time to develop...so what do you do?

    You put them in games with a team that runs your system and follows your philosophy(like the RGV does for the Rockets)

    You cherry picked players to fit your agenda....what the Rockets are doing with their rookies and RGV is exactly what all teams should be doing.
     
  10. Carl Herrera

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    Yes, they are slow. They are not NBA ready, not yet. May be later, but not yer.
     
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    Seriously? You read that from CH and didn't immediately think of Markieff Morris?
     
  12. WinkFan

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    It's the best way to progress scrubs like dmo, jones, morris.
     
  13. proudfoot

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    There are some rookies which are ready to receive playing time - and some that aren't. We do play rookies (Parsons, Smith, PBev).

    Some drafts turn out to be very good - others, not so much.
     
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    If you look at the players above and also in the Rockets case Chandler Parsons, most Rookies that got playing time were competent NBA defenders, in the case of Shumpert and also Parsons they were the team's best defender.
     
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    Morey is terrible drafting first rounders. He likes to draft 'versatility' players who can play multiple positions. Morey has a serious case of LeBron syndrome.

    Unfortunetely he never pays attention to the defensive skills of those players. When a rookie is a defensive liability, he is not NBA-ready. Most NBA coaches will only play rookies who can hold their own on the defensive end.

    Morey is a great GM but when it comes to first round drafts, he is a BIG dissappointment.

    Win a championship with Rubio?? Royce a top 5 talent?? He is blind as a bat!
     
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    Would MKG, Robinson, Lillard, Barnes, Drummond, Zeller, or Sullinger be playing with the Rockets? Or are they stuck on the bench and/or in the D-League?

     
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    IMO Robinson will definitely spend some time at DL w/ Rockets. Barnes and MKG might go there a trip or two. Others on the list? No.
     
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    Drummond would be a victim of the emergence of Greg Smith and then traded for peanuts while Marcus Morris keeps playing because he's 'so good at stretching the floor'.
     
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    You make it sould as if Morris has a brother.
     
  20. gah

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    Not really. Drummond would have played last night and given us legit back-up minutes for Asik which was critical in that game. Greg Smith's status would have been very iffy if we landed and kept Drummond.
     

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