without yao, tmac and ron there will be no playoffs. is tanking an option? tanking suggests that a team can win but choses not to. i dont think the rockets can win if they wanted to. they're going to lose a lot of games next year whether they want to or not.
people have to understand that we are looking for young talent, not veterans, as we are in rebuild mode for 2010. we know were are not winning it this year so why would we get aging men like camby or chandler? we need a young center or tall pf. we got brooks,lowry, taylor,budinger,landry,white and wafer (if we sign him) and we just added ariza to that mix, its obvious we want young atlent not old people. yao still isnt old, and neither is scola they still have a few more years on their tank. our oldest players are battier, mcgrady, and barry. it would make a lot more sense to get zaza who is only 25. he stil may have some growth in him, which with adleman he could be able to do. that is why we are also interested in the kids in portland such as rudy fernandez, jared bayless, channing frye, and travis outlaw.
In that case, the Rockets are already tanking because we chose Ariza over Artest. And that we tried to trade up in the lottery, targeting an 18 year old point guard. "Tanking" and "rebuilding" in the end means the same thing. Even if one has a negative connotation and the other has a positive one.
a Lineup of Hayes Scola Shane/Ariza 2nd round player or White Brooks Wing/Center = huge holes = many games lost Let alone the questions of -Can Scola be our number 1 post option play? -Can AB improve? -What do we do with Shane/Ariza? -Who the hell is our SG? T-mac, if so how effective? -Hayes as our Center.....prepare to be anal-abused as we have 0 shot blockers Hell we may be forced to play Brian Cook more.......
Tanking could be an option sometime March and not now. Things will change and the composition of this team is not set yet. There might be surprises and hopefully the rookies can show signs of flashes that they can contribute to the team next season.
Talent level? The starting lineup is currently 5 role players - I can't name a single team in the WC that has a less-talented starting five than (assuming) Pachulia-Scola-Battier-Ariza-Brooks I guess you could argue Memphis, but I think Gay, Gasol, or Mayo would all start for the Rockets. That's a 30 win lineup right there.
Tanking seeps in a mental softness handicap that's extremely hard to get rid of. Just say no to tanking. If we don't have the talent to make the playoffs, fine. But I can't abide by a team not competing hard voluntarily.
I don't think anybody is proposing that the players not play hard - I still think the Rockets should move their veteran pieces in order to get younger since this team as currently constituted is going nowhere, and I don't know how likely it is that they end up as big winners in the 2010 FA bonanza - I see it being more hype than hope in the end.
It is such a stupid argument to keep thinking the NBA rigs the lottery to get big city teams the #1 pick. If that was the case how come recent lottery winning teams have been: Portland, Cleveland, Toronto, Milwaukee and Orlando. Not to mention, the NY Knicks have been in the lottery for the better part of a decade and they havent won it anytime recently. Stern may wish he could rig the lottery, but there is no way he was thinking Lebron to Cleveland was the best thing for the NBA.
Why is everyone against tanking? Do you realize that how we got Hakeem? Who regrets that? Do you think the Spurs regret landing Duncan? Snap back into reality guys....this team is going to suck next season...tanking or not. We don't have that much talent on the roster, and definitely not guys who can get their own shots. I don't expect the players to go lose games on purpose, but I expect us to see a bunch of young guys out there to allow them to develop and see what they have.
To early in the offseason to determine what course of action the team will take. Will we TANK hell no please this team didnt give up vs the Lakers last year what makes you think we will do it this year. Now, will we rebuild, it sure looks that way and yes thats the right move. We will try and win but just not have enough talent IF WE STAY AS IS which I doubt. I say we have two more major trades to make that could change everything about this team and consider the western conference may be headed for a down time we might make the playoffs by accident. I guess the question is does Tank=Rebuild?
Sig! Hell nah its not an option...you see what tanking gets you? Ask the Wizards and Kings this year...STILL aint get the #1 pick.
if we get some money for yao's injury, we can sign some more players i would think. if tracy does come back within the first month and plays just like 07-08, we'll make the playoffs. but i dont' think it's worth it. i want to build a true contender who has a legit chance of winning.
yea if only you're guaranteed the first/2nd pick or the draft is pretty good. imagine if you got the #1 pick in this draft and got blake griffin, pretty good players, but no lebron/duncan/hakeem. those are once in a lifetime players. but john wall may be that dude
If we go out and get the fifth spot in the playoffs, it is still a LONG shot to make it to the WCF. We have to get past a top tier team, only to face a better top tier team (most likely). I'd rather be a lottery team, since we have no chance at winning the 'ship. I know it hurts, as a fan to not see your team win, but that's just how it is with this upcoming season.
Adelman and the Rockets will NOT tank the season. That implies a lack of effort. However, as we stand now, trying hard as we can, we are a 20-win team at best.
The Rockets have too many players that understand how to win to be a 20-win team. Only really young teams without experience in a few as 20. With the current group, I think they could win 30-35. Maybe even 40, if the main pieces stay healthy.
I don't know why so many fans believe that because the lottery involves luck, that there's no point in tanking. So what if the odds aren't 100%? It's weird how fans are okay with any movements that give us "better odds" at winning a championship, but for some absurd reason think that tanking is pointless because lottery system doesn't guarantee the top pick. Besides, you don't even need the top pick to have a successful franchise turning draft. The Rockets could've had the guy on the right rather than the guy on the left. But instead, rather than tanking, we "fought" for an extra hard-earned win. And now we're left with hundreds of Battier/Gay threads.
