What I like about the Suns doctors is they look at an injury on say the ankle as a full body injury instead of just an ankle injury. They also treat the joints and muscles surrounding the injury to alleviate pressure on the injury. It's sort of like the mold of McGrady's back doctor. He didn't just address the back injury. He also noticed it related to the arch of McGrady's feet. It's that kind of stuff they look at that doesn't look like it pieces together but does. Also now that I think about it, the Detroit docs are incredible as well. They never appear to be injured.
I understand what everyone is saying about the doctor, but isn't part of this due to our strength and conditioning coach as well? It's one thing to treat our players when the get injured and get them healed in the shortest amount of time, but another to make sure they are never injured in the first place. And yes, I realize that there are always going to be freak accidents where an ankle is rolled or a knee bumped into... -Humer
Because there may be a reason other than ability that this guy was hired. Also, wow, that is quite a list. We're are so doomed against GS tonight.
I am of the opinion that our medical staff is below average. I've been thinking this since we started having chronic injury issues back in '98. I mean, why do our players constantly have to miss games because of injuries that were misdiagnosed or not caught in time (Yao's hairline fracture, toenail, and Tmac's shoulder are examples of this)? Also, why the hell are they allowing guys like Ron the alternately play and rest when they have injuries that require healing? Shouldn't they just sit if this is the case? We're placing early season games in higher priority than long term prognosis? That's just asking for trouble. Friggin Tracy had to find miracle docs in Ft. Worth and Phoenix... I hate our medical staff.
I seem to remember when Yao's trainer, Falsone was the trainer for the Rockets they were hardly hurt at all. Then Yao hired him away. Even with the injuries Yao has had which have more to do with his body build, I think that was the difference. He does a great job with getting Yao back to health. Maybe Rockets should demand him back from yao
PLEASE STOP with all these "why can't we have better doctors" threads.....and PLEASE STOP with "phoenix has magical doctors that cured cancer"...... Shaq was NOT injured. He's had some minor stuff since, but he's a "monster" now because he's got something to play for. Even Dwade will tell you he quit on the Heat last year and wasn't giving 100%, it wasn't due to injury or bad conditioning. Amare's injury DID NOT go as perfect as people believe. came back TOO EARLY after the first surgery and that's why he had to go out again. Why didn't phoenix's magical staff avoid THAT? Because they aren't as magical as you think. They're good, but just like any other medical team they can only do and predict so much. Amare came back 100% from the injury due to extended rest (because he learned from the previous mistake) and the fact that he was still fairly young, which is an advantage when trying to heal. Grant Hill was the only one who comes close to being "cured" by Phoenix and even that was mostly due to a bad staff back in orlando rather than a great one in Phoenix. Phoenix tried something different with him and it worked, but it wasn't magical, they just didn't focus so much on his ankle and checked the rest of his limbs and found the problem wasn't exactly the ankle. Are the trainers suppose to catch Artest everything he falls on the court? Are the trainers suppose to make Brent Barry 20 yrs old again? ( He had the SAME injury last year with the Spurs, but on the other leg, he just OLD). Are the trainers suppose to live inside Battier's ankle and watch out for bone spur formation??? No, they formed and the staff can't do anything aout it. Are the trainers at fault because Dorsey overtrained, has flat feet, or wore the wrong shoes? Tmac is fragile, has scoiiosis, which throws off the positioning of his pelvis, which means his limbs are probably all out of whack and they're functionally uneven, which can be a problem when training and lead to injuries, which is EXACTLY WHY HE WAS TOLD HE WOULDN'T LAST MORE THAN 3 YRS IN THE LEAGUE. He's just been lucky since. YAO MING!??!!!! He has a COLD!!! Please just stop. Injuries happen. A lot. To some team more than others. Some go a whole season with 5 injuries, others have 30. Some have injury prone players, some don't. Peja, Martin, rose, Bryant, Anthony, camby, Lee, Deng, parker, manu, boozer, deron, nash, bogut, monta, maggette, Villanueva, Arenas, wallace, Oden, Smith, Kmart, A parker, Miller, Kaman, Zydrunas, Ak, Okur, Mike miller, Biedrins, Chandler, JO, Howard, Dunleavy, Brand, davis, and so on and on and on.....that's just what i can remember off the top of my head, all been injured, played with injuries, it happens, get over it.
and ya'll give too much power to the trainers and docotrs. Remember that fans come to see players, not MDs. Who do you think has the final say in whether Ron plays on a hurt ankle or not?? Who was the one insisting he was going to play the NEXT night after he sprained it? Who's had torn ligaments, due to playing on concrete, knew about it, and still kept doing it?? The doctors and trainers simply give advice and recommendations, they don't make laws or rules. Its up to the players themselves to make the final decision. They are adults afterall, quit treating them like babies with mothers called trainers and doctors.
After a couple weeks off, McGrady seemed to play without much pain. Based on what team doctors were apparently saying earlier in the year, McGrady's pain wouldn't go away unless he "strengthened" the knee by playing on it. So what the hell is going on here? Were they simply wrong?
I'm pretty sure either someone from the team or tmac himself said he'd always have some kind of pain and the knee wouldn't really be back to 100%, but that once it gains strength he'd be close to it. And has tmac just rested this whole time? I think he's actually still been practicing on his own and rehabbing, otherwise he would have looked more out of shape tonight and would have played less in the second half. So i'm guessing just going through the motions on his own would strengthen it just like if he'd been playing.
The team's doctor didn't do a very satisfying job. Just like in any other profession, there're good doctors, there are bad doctors and there're so-so doctors. The Rockets doctors probably fell into the last category. Good doctors, especially sports team doctors, should not only focus on curing injuries that have already occurred, but also prevention. It seems the Rockets doctors have done a decent job on operating on injuries, but paid little attention to the preventative side of medicine. Besides, their judgment on a player's injury seems at times flawed. Tmac came back too early. Artest should have got some rest earlier. Barry came back too early. Nobody knows who's next. Players made their own decisions, that's a sign of distrust in the medical team.
Lol blaming doctors for our struggles this board would blame a dog for barking at t-mac to explain his subpar perfmance
distrust isn't a reflection of how the doctors perform, it's a reflection of the ego of the players. Do you think tmac likes sitting back and hearing all the criticism?? The only reason he came back early was because Ron was out and HE felt he needed to come help. It had nothing to do with not trusting the doctors. Players do this all the time, not just here. Hell, i did it when i got injured and was told I was suppose to rest 1 month, i was playing ball the moment I was able to walk and that was after 2 weeks. Worst mistake ever. 10 yrs later i'm still having issues. I did it for the same reason players do it, they feel good and figure they know themselves better than ANY doctor out there. As for the prevention, how do you suggest they prevent Yao from cracking his leg on the court? By making him play with a cast on? By nicely asking opposing players to be gentle with him please? Injuries are a part of the game, period. Prevention isn't always possible, like i mentioned earlier, the players have a lot of say in the matter. If it was up to the coaches and trainers, ALL players would get their ankles taped, but they don't. Why? Because players won't allow it. They don't all feel like they can move around well with tape. Even within the same team, when the same trainer is doing the taping, some players want it, some don't, its not a decision based on who's doing the taping, but who getting taped.
I don't think the salary of the team doctors affects the luxury tax in the NBA. that is just a hunch.
