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Is PF our weakest position?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Easy, Dec 26, 2012.

  1. VBG

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    Marcus Morris DRB% - 14.8

    Pattrick Patterson DRB% - 11.7


    So yeah Patterson is a worse rebounder.
     
  2. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Parsons is not a great small forward, but he does what is needed from the position when you have two dominating guards in Harden and Lin. You don't need another perimeter ball handler - just a shooter and a finisher - which is what Parson does.

    PF is our weakest position. Or let me put it another way. It's our biggest opportunity for upgrade.

    I think we need a guy who can post and hit a 10 foot jumper. Someone large. I think David West should be our target. Has a post-up game, knows how to play with guard oriented offenses, above average in every category. Won't dunk like crazy but we don't need that. Awesome for PnR. Has a mid-range jumper to spread the floor. Solid defender.

    He could make this team very dangerous.
     
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    I don't think so. He could hurt the overall success of the team. We don't need his scoring threat and he isn't good at defense of rebounding.
     
  4. Rocket_4_Life

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    I'd rather see stand Pat.
     
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    You have no idea what constitutes a good PF. It's the easiest position to be mediocre at today. Look at Scola, despite his skills he was never even an above average starter. Our PF is a weakness for us. Is our PF better than West, Duncan, Randolph, or Dirk? That's what our division looked like a few years ago. Add Bosh, Gasol, Lee, Anderson, Love, Griffin, Faried, Garnett, Boozer, Ibaka, Aldridge, Smith...heck our PFs aren't even as good as Barngani, who's a joke of an NBA player.
     
  6. heypartner

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    True. But you also describe the beauty of what mchale is doing: He knows his personnel and knows that a uptempo game with a PF by commitee rotation can neligate the advantage team like Memphis have on us at PF. Thus why I say PF is our weakest starter but not our weakest position

    This is also why I agree with bongman when he points out Morris's fast break skills are being overlooked in this thread. He is an outstanding fb pAsser for a big man
     
  7. QazQay

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    Keep in mind that Morris often times guards 3s in our defense, either because he's actually playing the 3 or because parsons is guarding the 4.
     
  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    not if you want to win in the playoffs
     
  9. Joe Joe

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    The PF depth is nice. I think Parsons has been so much better than the starting PF for the season that SF position is still stronger. I may change my mind to your position as Morris has been playing great and there are a lot of PFs "developing". Patterson may also prove to be better off the bench.
     
  10. Easy

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    Jones seems to be a good fastbreak PF too, from the limited exposure I've seen in SL and preseason. Of course Morris is a better shooter at this point. My concern with Morris is his defense.

    I think Morris is still better coming off the bench. We have two good fb guards and SF in the starting lineup. A fb PF is not as important.

    BTW, I agree that PF is our weakest starter and SF is our weakest position. Thanks for the clarification.
     
  11. Rocket_4_Life

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    I was just joking. I wouldn't mind a David West rental for a season, but I think TJ or Dmo will be equal if not better in 2 years.
     
  12. Yao4REAL

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    We need a PF that can shoot and stretch the floor. Someone like Dirk will be perfect because if you have Harden and Lin penetrate, someone is going to be open. And if you have a PF that can't shoot, then they're just going to collapse on anyone that try to penetrate. So we need a PF that not only can shoot but also play defense and rebound and be physical, which is hard to find. Ibaka and Dirk will be perfect. But so far, Morris has been doing great.
     
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    When I was in school(which was a long time ago) the grading system was something like this:
    A=Excellent
    B=Good
    C=Average
    D=Poor
    F=Fail

    Patterson in my opinion has a below average low post game for a power forward, so I would probably give him a grade of D for his low post game.

    I do think that TJones and D-Mo could possibly develop into the kind of power forward the Rockets are looking for. I wish D-Mo could magically add about 30 pounds of muscle.
     
  14. Easy

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    B=Average in graduate school. :grin:
     
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    Given all the talent we have at the position, flawed as they maybe individually, I still say that our weakest position is that of SG. Although this is a flaw I believe the front office created on purpose due to the love they and the coaches seem to have for going small with two PGs on the floor at the same time or Harden playing the point.
     
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    You are overthinking this.

    Do you think the Heat and OKC's weakest position is SF? Is the Laker's weakest position SG?
     
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    The 94-95 Rox were extremely thin at C.:eek:
     
  18. Easy

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    Parsons is nice but he is no star. His only backup is Delfino. That's why the SF spot is the weakest. I think Patterson is underrated by this board because of his softness as a PF. He is probably still the best all-around guy we have at the 4, although now that Morris is hitting his shots at an efficient level, he may surpass Patterson. All and all, the two guys combine to be a very decent position for us.

    The struggle we had earlier was actually the back court. Lin couldn't shoot. Douglas was like a chicken without a head. Now that Lin is doing well, Douglas is hitting his shots and knowing his role, we start winning.
     
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    Hi Easy, if you see my tracking our team performance thread - you'd see that in comparison to the other teams in NBA, our play at the PF position is indeed the weakest link at the moment. I was using the basic stats to crunch and do a comparison to the rest of the NBA teams.

    This is not to say that the individual players are bad/poor but in comparison with the rest of the team and against othe PFs playing in NBA - yep, we have a very weak PF for now....
     
  20. kjayp

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    PF is def our weakest position! You can have all the aspects covered by committee - but you can only put one body on the floor. I think DMo has the potential to be the future... but we need someone who can bang down low, get us some cheap putbacks and put some fear into other teams driving the lane!
     

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