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Is Patrick Patterson Our Swing for the Fences Pick?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Old Man Rock, Jun 25, 2010.

  1. Haymitch

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    I'm sorry, but this thinly veiled Larry Sanders fellatio is absurd. Post something legit if you want a legitimate response. But I'll stop now. You can go back to your very serious and thought-provoking analysis, which history shows us has been prophetic.
     
  2. pbthunder

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    We were swinging for the fences, we just didn't get a pitch we could knock out of the park. We took a walk; maybe the next batter drives us in.

    We got value for the #14 pick. We advanced the ball. Everybody knows more trades are coming.

    We trade PP, or the pick lets us trade Hill. We're still in good shape.

    There's a lot of ways we can go. We didn't hurt ourselves with PP. I would have liked to pick up some players like Whiteside, Alabi, or others in the 2nd round, though.

    If we haven't improved by the trading deadline, THAT'S when we should lose faith.
     
  3. thetatomatis

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    What is with you people and saying he doent have a whole bunch of upside? Where does this logic come from? He was on a stacked team where for two seasons he was considered maybe a top 5 pick in the draft and then came out and was still considered a top 10 that fell to us. He shoots 60% almost because he takes less shots to allow his teammates Wall and Cousins get more into the offense after averaging more than both of them the year before in points. He starts shooting threes at a real good rate to accomodate Cousins down in the post and starts to hit them after never doing that before. Then he is probably a better physical specimen of 5 percent body fat that is bigger than Landry and more ripped. I dont get this crowd. He is small? At 6'9? Scola is small at 6'9? 240? Hill is small at 235 for a powerforward? Some of you :confused: ?? LOL! :grin:
     
  4. pbthunder

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    My understanding was that you made a mistake, and some folks were giving you a hard time over it. I was telling you not to let it bother you.

    I made a big one a couple of years ago here on the board - not that I'm going to point it out.
     
  5. Tom Bombadillo

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    Larry Sanders has a very low understanding of the game. I am very skeptical that he will ever play more than 20 minutes a game...
     
  6. Corpusfan

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    Who cares if he was sixth on anyone else's board? The team is focused on winning this coming season, not on developing projects for the future.
    With that goal in mind, Patterson was the right pick.
     
  7. glynch

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    Exactly.
     
  8. ILoveTheRockets

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    I dont know how the feelings about Kevin Martin's(the Denver K-Mart) playing style around here is, but that is exactly what type of game patterson brings to the table, without the thuggery.
     
  9. Ottomaton

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    The fundamental idea of "swinging for the fences" is an intellectual trap. You "swing for the fences" and miss. So your team ends up with a hole. So you have to swing for the fences a little harder next time around to make up for the hole you've dug yourself and swing for the fences a little harder. Repeat ad infinitum until you are taking massive risks every year on people with physical tools, but no skills and the minds of infants in the futile hope that they will somehow develop character.

    It is the same thought processes that result in people mortgaging their houses in order to get one more roll of the roulette wheel in Vegas. "Swinging for the fences" is how you end up in Gamblers Anonymous.

    Shortcuts are distractions of fools gold for weaklings and imbeciles. Slow and steady wins the race.

    <img src="http://www.rabbitfunds.com/wp-content/uploads/tortoiseandhare.jpg" width="25%" height="25%">

    The way to win is to approach the draft like Warren Buffett. Get value from where it is available. And don't try and force something that isn't there.

    If you want to take a flier on some schlub's potential, do it with a low value second round pick, not one of the top picks in the draft. My impression with regard to second round pick methodology with the Rockets hasn't been that they've been drafting guys with the expectation that they'd all turn into players. Rather, they take a flier on three or four guys at one position of need and hope one of them sticks. I would be willing to bet that Morey had absolutely no expectation that all three second rounders from last year would turn into regular NBA players.
     
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    Kenyon Martin.
     
  11. JuanValdez

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    I'd agree. BUt, we're not the ones who started this 'swing for the fences' business anyway. It was the Rockets who said they'd swing for the fences.
     
  12. leebigez

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    I think by nature, more is a low risk guy. Its nothing wrong with that, but i think this wouldve been a great year to take a chance on a guy like sanders or whiteside. Even if you have to send the guy to the d-league for a year. Those guys arent going to be the difference maker this year anyway. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
     
  13. meh

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    The Rockets said would swing for the fences if they get a fastball right down the middle(i.e. get a superstar/top 5 pick without gutting the entire team). Instead they got a breaking ball outside the strike zone, so Morey laid off.
     
  14. BMoney

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    Come on now- there is a league wide shortage of skilled big men. If a fat headcase like Demarcus Cousins has teams around the league excited then you know that teams are desperate. The greatest number of first round washouts come from overhyped big men. Also, show me the f-ing quote where Morey claimed that Dorsey was the "prototype center of the future."
     
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    Both are high-character people.
     
  16. Ottomaton

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    David Carr of the white gloves always seemed to me like a narcissistic pretty boy and a fop. In other words, the sort who made sure to look like a high character guy when people were watching.

    I don't get that from Patterson. Patterson seems more lunch pail high-character.
     
  17. pbthunder

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    David Carr lived up to exectations, at least through the first 100 sacks.
     
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    Well, I am not going to fault him for his good looks. David had responsibilities off the field; in addition to the burden of having to work behind one of the worst OLs in the league -- for multiple years. He is a McNair/Rockets-type player / person. As is the current Texans coach.
     
  19. rpr52121

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    Correction. I would argue the trade for the Knicks picks gave us two walks. The Patterson pick is a sacrifice bunt. Now we have two outs (1 current superstar who is rarely healthy), and 2 RISP with 2 outs, and trying to score some runs.
     
  20. TheresTheDagger

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    The man can play team defense, block shots, is athletic, can hit an open j, has a good attitude (coachable) and most importantly rebound on the defensive end.

    What more did you expect from the 14th pick?
     

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