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Is Patrick Patterson Our Swing for the Fences Pick?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Old Man Rock, Jun 25, 2010.

  1. JuanValdez

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    A player is more than a height and a wingspan. Lol.

    We don't need a Carl Landry replacement anyway. Having 2 good PFs with Scola and Landry was akward anyway (instead of 1 great one and 1 mediocre one). And, we have Jordan Hill to play the backup PF role now too. How about he play the Budinger role next season -- the promising rookie -- and leave it at that?
     
  2. DaDakota

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    At 14 if he plays at all, we scored big.

    DD
     
  3. Old Man Rock

    Old Man Rock Contributing Member

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    I was thinking exactly that. if Morey is being honest, the other GM's don't want to make the same mistake of giving away a CBUD for 2 mil. That's the only thing that makes sense.

    I think most GM's like to think they are smarter than the rest and when they read how everyone says how brilliant Morey is, there's got to be a little jealousy. Morey is stealing good players in the second round for just money and then signing them to 3 year deal with a team option on the last year. On top of that Morey has his own think tank camp and Cuban even attended to spy. I bet you that's exactly the line Cuban used when buying the 25th pick for just cash.

    Hey don't let Morey make a fool of you. If he buys that pick for just cash your owners going to say hey why didn't you pick him instead of Morey and then you going to get canned. Do you want that. Of course you don't. So sell that pick to me and your owner will think it's just some cooky owner who can't win a championship.
     
  4. SamFisher

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    DaDakota being realistic about the value of a draft pick for once? Will wonders ever cease.
     
  5. wyo-ming

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    he's right if the laker can do it w/ a lame Bynum... BESIDES morey thinks the new prototype center is under 7ftw/ long wings
     
  6. peleincubus

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    :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

    yeah you said it for me.
     
  7. thumbs

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    Drafting Patterson was not a swing for the fences. It was an infield bunt to load the bases with the hope of getting a hit or walk to drive a run(s) home.
     
  8. ShiniKashi

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    Let him play.
     
  9. Old Man Rock

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    First I like Morey. he is definitely one of the better GM's in the league. But let's be clear about what he has accomplished...

    Aaron Brooks was Adelman's man. He had been watching him since he was unemployed and living in portland. Adelman asked for this guy.

    Carl landry was Hinkie and CD's man. Hinkie discovered him and CD did all the background work and then handed over to Morey.

    Budinger was Adelman's guy. When he was still on he board in the early 40's Adelman walked into Les' office and asked if they could get this guy and Les said okay.

    As for Sanders vs Patterson I have already said I thought Patterson would be able to contribute right away whereas Sanders is a bit more of a project. Before the draft I put my pecking order of what I thought we should pick in the order in which I thought we should pick them. I had Patterson over Sanders because of an immediate need. As soon as the Jazz picked hayward I knew there was a chance Patterson would drop. And when the Grizzlies picked henry I knew or pick would be Patterson. If you were in the chat you would know that. I stated I would not be upset with Paterson over Sanders. he is more of a proven commodity. But I am having buyers remorse today.

    So Yeah that is the truth. I wish we would have picked Sanders over Patterson. I may be the only one in the world that does. The fact is they're really quite similar in many of the boxes the Rockets check. Sanders is a stand up guy with a great attitude. And so is Patterson. I think they both have great work ethics.

    The big difference that I see besides size is Sanders didn't play high school basketball until he was 11th grade. He was 16 and measured 6'2". A late bloomer who didn't get much attention in high school. No one to mentor his game. that mostly continued in college. Thats exactly opposite Pattersons career. he was always on the recruiters boards. NBA scouts looking at him in High school. Invited to all the High school event , Nikke Hoop Summit mcDanalds High school games. He got it all with Duke Florida and Kentucky chasing him. And Sanders had VCU. VC who?

    Colleges never thought to be something special. He by his own admission said he was uncoordinated and didn't like the game when he was a kid because much better players his size. But then he grew. Still no love from the big colleges. His coaching was okay the first 2 years not so much his last year when they changed coaches. But Sanders has managed to improve on his own. His had big games in the tournaments and if you watched the games he effects the game much like Yao does in Houston. Teams stay away from him. That's not the case with Patterson. Also neither of them are accomplished back to the basket scorer. But while Sanders had a lot less experience doing it he shot an amazing 55% from the low post a much better number than Patterson. Patterson is stronger and more accomplished so he is definitely the safe bet but I would have liked us to take a chance on someone who I think could bring a more needed skill and that's shotblocking and low post sscoring. The end
     
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    I don't really know too much about college ball, but I know that Daryl Morey does... And I'm gonna go ahead and trust his judgment on this one. I suggest you do the same since he's earned as much.
     
  11. Prince

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    Pat is the next Amar'e.
     
  12. delishman

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    We should listen to him, guys.

    Joey Dorsey + Larry Sanders > Jordan Hill + Patrick Patterson

    It's math.
     
  14. SuperBeeKay

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    We had the 14th pick, not a top 5 pick.
     
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  15. chenjy9

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    Like others have mentioned, are we missing something here? DM and the Rox had the 14th pick for crying out loud. You don't swing for the fences or have stars fall into your lap at the 14th pick.
     
  16. ebatinga

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    I think most people fail to recognize that he was the man before Wall, Cousins, Bledsoe and Orton...He had always been ranked in mock drafts in prior years...I think he did himself better by waiting for this year (a.) he developed parts of his game that he never had to utilize before this year = better basketball iq (b.) he showed he could be a team player, which means (at least from what I've been reading) that he doesn't necessarily mind NOT being the man....A big like that who was ranked by the Rox at 6 and dropped to 14 is a defenite no brainer....
     
  17. declan32001

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    OMR, good thread. There are many angles one can take on drafting PPat.

    And I do think it's not just us evaluating Morey - it's the whole league. He's got a rep, but as you have said, he's deferred to other voices when we did strike relative gold.

    There are so many people here who swear Morey-is-god that trash Ariza & Martin in the same post that my head spins.

    To me those players represent the direction we're headed. Maybe Morey missing on Dorsey (2nd round, who cares?) is a profound lesson.

    But the one thing Morey has to prove is that he can bring in a big man that is going to be good regardless of how well Yao plays. Last year doesn't count IMHO, but it was only a couple of years ago Morey said he believed Dorsey was the prototype center of the future.

    I believe we're going to have a very good year, but Morey has a tough road to hoe.
     
  18. Old Man Rock

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    I agree declan... and I would add Dorsey was a major talent but also a bit of a wacko. Morey missed on that bit of info in his calculations.
    What an idiot... talk directly to me if you have something to say. Don't act stupid.
     
  19. pbthunder

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    Chill, we all make mistakes.

    Ever see the experts talk about the NFL games on the pre-game show? You wouldn't make any money betting on their opinions, yet they actually are experts. And don't get me started on economists...
     
  20. Old Man Rock

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    His statement was not a mistake. And I admitted Hill is playing better than I expected. And it is obvoius Dorsey is not playing. But my statement was right now and it is not right now anymore. So that was a lie.
     

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