Is Patrick Patterson Our Swing for the Fences Pick?

To the OP, I like that Morey and co. have a system to help determine the best players coming out of the draft. So far, it seems like it's worked.

Here is my simplistic evaluation from what I've seen him do.

Vertical: 7.5
Speed: 8
Post defense: 8
Post move scoring: 7
Shooting: 9
Quickness: 9
Shot blocking ability: 9
Athleticism: 8

 

Can't have it both ways, if other teams drafted higher risk/reward you can't say those teams got better. By definition, they took more risk for, hopefully, more reward. Only time will tell if they got better.

 

Wow. No joke, that's embarrassing.

 

Just get over it.

BPA at the 14th pick.

Sorry Morey didn't draft your guy

 

^ Morey's direction.
Hitting enough solid players to trade in for a star. Which will take a average amount of time longer than nailing a great player from the get go. That's why we'll be average/above average until we trade-in our chips for a star.

I guess it's easier to control our fate that way but on average teams will be looking to trade us second hand overpaid/over the hill players and it is much harder to land a great player that a team already has.

 

True towW, but the flip side is that one of those assets may turn out to be a star anyway, and then you don't have to trade for one.

I mean the Rockets have enough good young talent that might become a star, so while Morey tries to acquire one, we can hope that one simply develops.

Win/win IMO.

DD

 

Maybe that whole swing-for-the-fences thing was a smoke-screen so other teams would think Morey was targetting someone else?

Seriously, I think you guys are rationalizing to defend Morey's choice. Not that it's a bad choice. But, I think Morey wanted to swing for the fences as in make a big trade and get a significant piece. And, he failed in that. So, he went to his BATNA, which was picking the best player available at #14, which happened to be Patterson. So, he hit a single, maybe a double. But, not the homerun he was hoping for.

 

True, his draft philosophy is solid. I guess I was hoping too much for the next KG.

 

He might already be on the team.....lol.



DD

 

Patterson's 6'9 frame and 7'1 wingspan are avg. for a PF... Not to mention we have a SF with a longer wingspan in Ariza who has a freaking 7'2 wingspan. And a another SF that is taller than Patterson, which is Shane Battier who stands at 6'9.5

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Trevor-Ariza-1527/

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Shane-Battier-1619/

So can people stop pretending like this guy has great measurements, he measearued like an average PF ... sigh

--RB

 

It seems like you are doubting Morey.

....you're not doubting Morey, are you? you do know what happens to people who doubt Morey, right?

 

How do you nail a great player from the get go? I'm sure if Morey knows how to do that without going NJ on the league, he'd have done it already.

 

i think everyone failed too notice what i think is going on nobody wants to be the g.m. that gave/ sold d.m. c-bud that is why we can't trade up or buy a 2nd round pick yet the mav's can i see this as a peek of the future for the home team i hope i am wrong but i see us as being the last resort in trade for a lot of teams that is why i think we are looking more euro for value talent witch in the past has been bad sans Scola i like P.P. BUT I KINDA DON'T BUY we tried too move up& got the guy we wanted anyway being too good is being so good that no one wants to be made a fool of by you meaning that most teams will take another option rather than take a chance of being made a fool of by d.m.&then reminded of the pick that he sold every time the rockets come too town& every time c- bud scores on the pistons

 

I just saw that he measured out at 6'8"....this is 100% a Carl Landry replacement pick, IMO.

I hope at least he can rebound a bit better.

DD

 

Safe bet is really a bad choice for a rebuilding team.

If Morey is playing safe all the time, Rockets will stay in the mediocrity forever.

Pat Pat stay pat.

 

Forgot to add the guy he's pretty much replacing in Carl Landry: 6'11 wingspan and 8'6.5 standing reach. PPs measurements aren't fantastic, but there not bad either.

 

But his standing reach is 4.5 inches taller than Landry's.

To save you time:

Landry - 6'7.75 w/o shoes, 6'8.5 w shoes, 6'11 wingspan, 8'6.5 standing reach
Patterson - 6'8 w/o shoes, 6'9.25 w shoes, 7'1.25 wingspan, 8'11 standing reach
Scola - 6'9?? w shoes...
Hill - 6'9.25 w/o shoes, 6'10.25 w shoes, 7'1.5 wingspan, 9'0 standing reach

For all we know, Patterson is taller and bigger than Scola, and like every other member of the planet Earth he can jump higher than him too.

Why call someone a Landry clone when they are bigger than Scola? I don't get this undersized talk...we are not comparing Patterson to the Kevin Garnett/Chris Bosh/Amare Stoudemire type power forward. We are comparing him to the traditional PF (Karl Malone? Charles Barkley? Carlos Boozer? David West?) against whom he measures out at LEAST the same size. Patterson is a TRADITIONAL PF with just about no knocks when you consider him in that light rather than one expected to put the ball on the floor and try to be a guard in a four's body.

 

He measured like a PF, but played great....this is in contrast to Whiteside, who measured poorly for weight and will probably be thrown around like a rag doll by Patterson much less solid NBA vets.

 

why dont you all stop obsessing over height and him not being thug enough for you

it's not ROCKET science, Patterson was the best available pick. he's a skilled inside/outside player and with a good defensive presence.

if you expected Morey to pull some genius move (which was stupid given the needs that other teams had this year) dont take it out on the kid

for every team like the Lakers that has 7'0" across the starting frontcourt you have a team like the Celtics who got there with Big Baby and Perkings. it's fine. Morey got an asset for cheap since he had no chance for a home run

bottom line rockets got a top ten pick at 14

 

This is the real part of your post isn't it? You're just mad and bitter after all the campaigning you did the Rockets still got PP over Larry Sanders. So what if DM had PP 6th and nobody else didn't? Did you maybe think that this is the team who got Aaron Brooks, Carl Landry and C-bud while other teams passed on them? We didn't even get him at 6th, we got him at 14th. Tell me which board had sanders over PP? I'll tell you who...NONE. Ever think there's a reason why PP is in the lottery on every board out there while Sanders isn't?

All this talk about PP having limited upside is bull****. You haven't even seen the kid play against top competition and yet you're talking about him like he's already some kind of grizzled vet. Yeah, he probably won't be a perennial all-star. So what? Are you expecting a franchise player at the 14th pick? What's preventing PP from averaging something like 16-8-1.5 at an extremely efficient rate? That's not all star, but for the 14th pick that good enough.

The crazy thing is Sanders and PP are the same age yet you call PP as having limited upside while Sanders has just scratched the surface of his talent. I bet within 3 years PP will be the best big man taken after 13, Larry Sanders included.