Is Morey's package for Denver better than the Knicks' or Nets'?

Favors alone no. Favors with someone like Devin Harris or Brook Lopez would be the best deal. One of a combination of those two. That would be their whole team with any two of those guys though and kind of defeats the purpose of doing that deal anyways. You lose either Favors and Harris or Favors and Lopez. Why would New Jersey do it and why would Carmello want to go there afterwards?

 

them not having any trade exceptions will ultimately doom them. Outside of Harris and Lopez, I find nothing on their roster worth taking. I leave Favors out because he hasn't proven anything yet and has bust written all over him. IMO, the Nets should have taken Cousins who will be the better player overrall.

Also to take notice, any team that will trade for Melo will have to take on a bad contract like Anderson's or Nene's.

Any offer that the Nets include has to start with Harris and Favors just to make the salaries match. Why would Denver take back Harris when they already have Billups on books for another season for a team option and Lawson on a cheap rookie contract? Harris is making a **** load of money this season and next, unlike another point guard like Brooks, whose contract is relatively cheap.

Also the Nets have to convince Carmelo that their team will be better with his addition. Would giving up Harris, Favors, and even possibly Lopez make them better than the Nuggets? They won 11 games last season with Harris and Lopez and just lost Courtney Lee and with the loss of Harris and possibly Lopez, will they really improve significanly with just Melo? Melo is great and a top 5 player, but I just dont see them winning 40 more games with just him because that supporting cast will suck, even more the Nuggets, who Melo is supposedly saying is not that great anymore.

Also wouldn't it be ironic as hell if Morey nets us Melo using both New Yorks and New Jersey's assets, New Yorks' being their draft picks and expiring contract of Jeffries and New Jersey's by using Courtney Lee? He would single handley screw both teams that are in the running for Melo.

Another thing to mention is that Melo wants to play with a dominant big man, which was made known by his recent outing by both the Jazz last season and the Lakers the season before that. Why would he play for New Jersey if they trade Lopez, even though he is not better than even Nene. Assuming the reports out of Yao and Morey's camp are true, Yao will be back in full form by the start of training camp at the earliest. Melo knows you need a dominant big man to go deep in the playoffs, just look at Boston, LA or Orlando.

In the end, we can appease both Denver because we have the assets and Melo because we don't have to gut our team to aquire him and still compete for a title THIS year. If we go deep in the playoffs or even to the Finals with him, he would be a fool not to accept our extension offer, especially with the new CBA looming and the potentional lockout.

 

I have no doubt if the Rockets are to get Melo, the Nuggets will try and pry Martin off our hands. You can't get superstar talent for nothing, or just bench talent.

 

Gun to my head, if I had to choose who to let go, Brooks or Martin? I wouldn't know and probably would get killed.

 

Which talent did Cleveland just get back, or Toronto?

Sometimes teams just want to rebuild with picks.

DD

 

Why do people always assume that Melo is worth his massive contract this team?

Keep in mind that he sucks at D, doesn't have a 3 pt shot, and would still be making the MAX amount allowable. Melo is a mid-range to low post scorer. Guess what Scola and Yao Ming are?

With Yao, Scola and their two defenders all in the paint, its too crowded for slashing attempts at the basket. Our SF needs to hit that long 2/3 shot with a little consistently, and unfortunately Melo's shot is broken beyond repair. In fact, his 3 pt% makes Ariza look like Kobe's.

Pass.

 

Or rebuild with cheap young talent like Budinger or Brooks?

 

Agree on Chase, but not on AB, I think AB is not needed by them, they have Billups and Lawson, and the biggest reason is that AB will not be cheap next year, as he will be a restricted free agent just like Lowry was this year....


DD

 

That might actually be a good thing. I don't really see those 2 as being a good combo. The defense would be awful. Pairing Melo with Battier or Lee would be make the starting lineup more balanced.

 

With our current roster, we don't have a closer who can get you buckets in the 4th quarter consistently. We need a superstar that gets the calls from the refs because Brooks doesn't.

Carmelo is top 5 in 4th quarter scoring.

 

But he is a restricted free agent, am I right? The Nuggets would get Brooks' bird rights if thats the case.

 

Brooks is going to want a hefty payday next season, so I think you might be more inclined to let him go. On the other hand, giving up Aaron would be a bigger gap in the rotation than Martin IMO. I dont know if Kyle can handle starting duties since his outside shooting isn't great whereas if you give up Martin, I think it's a less glaring hole that could be filled by Shane defensive and Melo demanding opposing defensive attention on the other side of the court.



Then again, I highly doubt this is going to happen so it probably doesn't matter.

 

Agreed. It will be Martin + 1 or 2 young assets + 2 picks + Battier or Jefferies.

 

I feel you though. I would rather keep Brooks than Martin because I am more comfortable with Lee starting at SG than Lowry starting at PG for us.

 

Aaron Brooks, Courtney Lee, Jordan Hill, Patrick Patterson, Jermaine Taylor, Jeffries expiring, 2011 NY pick top-1 protected, 2012 NY pick top-5 protected, our 2011 pick unprotected, our 2012 pick unprotected.

In a perfect world, I would love to give up any combination of these assets for Melo, but of course, it will almost have to involve Budinger, Martin, or Lowry as well. Lets hope Morey can get lucky for once like the Lakers and Celtics.

 

Favors has already signed his rookie contract, so he can't be traded until December 15th. I would doubt Denver would let this situation simmer that long.

 

Favors bust?! Any of the top players could bust. Cousins could bust. Agree to disagree here.

One could make the same argument against Houston. Why would they want Brooks when they have Billups and Lawson? And you think Brooks is on his rookie contract forever? He is due for a huge raise in the next year or so.

I dont think the Nets are going to trade their whole future for one guy. I just dont see it.

Perhaps. I think they want a little more than Lee, Jeffries, draft picks for CA though.

Again, I doubt Lopez gets moved. And can I have what you're on? Nene better than Lopez? Ok. Yao may be back to full form but whose to say he doesnt get hurt again? IMO, what helps Houston hurts Houston - yep Yao Ming.

According to your proposal a couple posts back, you seem to be gutting the team of all it's assets for one player, maybe two(who would be a throw in). And as I see it, the only way a deal is consumed is if Melo agrees to an extension pre-trade.

Of course jmo. Nothing personal

 

well just last year we had Ariza at the 3...who would you rather have?

You have Paul saying he's happy....Indiana's making sure Granger's happy...Kobe, Lebron, and Wade aren't going anywhere for a while...etc

Carmello is a global elite star that is actually available. If there is a star player of his caliber available you try and get him. Even if it doesnt work out, during/after a 3 year contract he's still going to be one of the best talents in the league.

Morey just got all of the assets we have now to be able to be mentioned in trade destinations for stars mainly from a beat up McGrady...imagine what we could get dealing Carmello if needed.

Lol we could even trade him to the Knicks...make sure they never have a draft pick again...bwahaaha

 

Hey Carl Herrera,

Do you really have to ask if Morey has a better package than other GM's?

Just ask Mrs. Morey where the phrase "get'r done!" came from.

 

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