Is Michael Vick Setting a Bad Precedent for the NFL?

I eat fast food, buy groceries from Wal-Mart, etc. I doubt the animals I purchase from those businesses are raised and killed in the most humane way.

 

His brother Marcus is a grade A doofus who's got in trouble many times. Normally I'd say off the looks of things that Michael Vick is handling things pretty well, seems to have learned and to turn the page on that. But knuckleheadedness in the family like that, gotta maybe extend the social probation period a little more longer.

I'm not totally against public shaming. Its the old fashion way to condemn rotten acts. If you don't want to face people's hostility, don't do stupid things. Since Vick was put away for a while and a judge decided his time, and Vick is STILL broke, I won't disagree with the positive public reception that much.

 

I'm disappointed that the media never mention the biggest travesty of the animal world... roach and ant-killing sprays. We're talking millions perhaps billions of living breathing animals systematically destroyed all over the country. It's just ridiculous how there's no coverage on this. I mean, we even have companies who sell killing agents to civillians, and the government's not doing a single thing about it.

What Vick did pales in comparison to the likes of Raid which advertises, encourages, and give us the poisonous gas needed to wipe out roaches in our homes and workplaces. Where's the outrage over that? Where!? :grin:

 

He already paid for his mistakes, he is a different person now, I think he really changed, so why not giving him another chance.

 

I guess those insects will only get sympathy from their killers if they learn how to "gaze desperately into their eyes for just one moment of love or kindness."

 

This article starts and quickly ends after written by "Jemele Hill"

 

Lessons for kids from this saga:

1. If you screw up, your life isn't over. If you try to do right by people...if you ask for forgiveness..if you say you're sorry...if you "pay" for your trespass...there are still some jackasses who can't/won't forgive you, but you can't worry about that. It's all you can do.

2. Be quick to forgive. Particularly when they ask for forgiveness.


You have to be pretty callous to not see the good side of this story. Or just someone who didn't like Vick to begin with. There's redemption big time in this story....frankly, I love it.

 

Your past troubles should not take away from you making the Pro Bowl or getting an MVP award. If that is the case just don't let him in the league if his past will keep him from getting rewarded for how he performed on the field.

 

You forgot one:

3. Don't get worked up about a commentary written by a musician.

 

You don't have to read it if you don't want to. If I really wanted to advertise myself, I would have made a whole thread about it. I saw the topic and I just wrote about it so I thought I would show you what I wrote.

No need to be rude about it.

 

Don't mind him. It's just what he does around here.

His posts are not funny at all, and often the dumbest of the day.

 

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Again, this has been debated and discussed to death already, but nonetheless...

1. I don't think you'll find many people thinking that Vick should have been punished, punished harsher, etc. because they regard animals as "high" as humans.

2. The real shocker of the crime isn't in just the end result, but how they got there. Not just that he killed the dogs - though that alone is certainly disgusting - but how. And all the other ways he tortured them.

3. From a punishment perspective, my concern is way way way more about what type of person Vick is, and will be going forward, and continued harm he can do to society, than "retribution". Google around animal cruelty and how its linked to human abuse / violence. The connection is undeniable. Has Vick been "reformed"? Will he abuse again - animals or otherwise? Those are the bigger questions to me, and to the extent I just don't know the answers, I also don't know if his new success will help him or hurt him in that regard.

4. There are many many many people in the world who fight against the current food industry as it relates to consumption of animal products. I've been to kill facilities before, and even "better" ones, and it's shocking.

Everybody has a different view when they finally see or experience things for themselves, as opposed to being happily ignorant.

Take this post

Originally it wasn't spoilered, but a few posts later someone asked him to spoiler it....because it is just a difficult picture to handle. even if one might think he did his time, paid his price, etc., you then get reminded of what he actually did with a picture like that, and it just disgusts you.

 

MV said he didn't know then what he was doing what wrong but now he does? That's horrible...

 

JayZ--Regarding the likelihood of Vick again becoming violent to animals or people...

Has it been shown that he was actually abusing the animals directly? I thought he was basically the money behind the operations.

 

I would have no problem at all if the NFL decided not to let convicted felons play. That isn't a very high bar to reach and is not unheard of in other fields. Nearly every job application I have ever seen asks about criminal record. Should NFL players be held to a lower standard of morality than someone working in a restaurant or driving a delivery truck?

 

It is highly probable that if no team had signed him, the the NFLPA would have stepped in and claimed collusion.