Schaub has made some clutch plays (at Green Bay, at home vs Miami,etc..) The reason Landlord Landry is fighting so hard (like many of us have been throughout this thread) is because this thread has often gone from "Is Matt Schaub Clutch" to "Matt Schaub sucks and is THE PROBLEM with our football team", which after having several years of David Carr, is straight ridiculous. Many people just don't like Schaub and will fault every aspect THIS TEAM possess on him, they will blame our defensive lapses on him, they will blame our lack of running game on him, they will blame Kris Brown's missed field goals on him. People need to open their eyes, Matt Schaub is the BEST QUARTERBACK this franchise has ever had. He's not some old guy, he's young and will continue to grow with experience (this season alone should signify that, look up his stats for this year and compare to others). Yes he makes mistakes but who doesnt? I dont think all the Schaub haters realize he is part of the core we are going to build around. Bringing in an experienced quarterback through trade or free agency is slim to none (not to mention I would much rather have Schaub than a Jeff Garcia out there). That means the only way we are going to see a new quarterback is through the draft, and I am not really ready to "invest" and high draft pick on a young quarterback and sit through the growing pains when there are so many other needs on our team that need to be addressed (secondary by far, especially a playmaker at safety)
I think he means teams dont dread him like they do Favre or Manning. Sure, they game plan for him and they respect the heck out of Schaub. And also most NFL staffs will agree that Schaub is a big PLUS for the Texans. But he is somewhere between a solid system quarterback like a Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson and a stud QB like a Manning or Favre. This means that while Schaub can win a Super Bowl, he would have to have talent around him that players such as Brady or Manning wouldn't quite need. Though not nearly as much as players like Rypien, Dilfer, or Johnson did to win their super bowls.
Schaub is a good QB maybe not great but good...he has put this team in winning spots all year long but has made mistakes. I say he is clutch enough but he is not Manning or Brady.
Schaub is a really good QB, but saying "Schaub is better than David Carr and Sage Rosenfels!" does nothing to bolster that argument.
I said that because people cut down Matt as if they've been spoiled by someone we've had whos been better
Alot of people equate not having VY as the reason we have Schaub. Which I guess you could say because if we drafted Young the trade for Schaub doesnt happen. Alot of the same folks feel we should draft a 6 foot QB who went to the same school as VY. And let him start next year. They wont admit it, but yet there they are.
I will say this . .. I don't understand how you don't take a 3rd pick and take a flyer on Kevin Kolb That bothered me Rocket River
True on that one. But I wonder if the staff puts less emphasis on local products due to potential controversy? Imagine if the first three games of the season included a performance like today and the Jets game.
If you are referring to Colt McCoy he is 6'3"......and I would take him in the 2nd round....Tex Schram said he would be the best NFL QB out of everyone in college today. But, what does he know? He just built the old Roger Staubach cowboy teams, and has been an NFL talent scout for like 50 years. :grin: Oh and McCoy has a much stronger arm than Schaub.... DD
Say what you want about McCoy (I really have no idea how to project him in the NFL - my suspicion is that he'll be a bit of a project as learns to deal with not having a talent advantage at every position on the field, but who knows), but arm strength is not his big attribute. He's smart and very accurate, but his deeper passes tend to float and work best when his receivers have open space to run under the ball. Those are more college throws than NFL throws. He's not a rocket-arm type QB that's going to throw zip passes more than about 10-15 yards for the most part.
McCoy is listed as 6' 2" on the UT site, and thats probably an inch or two too generous. He didnt look that much taller than Applewhite on the sidelines on Thursday. But I know he is taller because Major is pretty short. I have no idea how McCoy will do at the next level, but he is being projected in the middle rounds so thats good enough for me. As far as the arm, cant say that I agree with you. Schaub's only weakness on a throw is the 10 yard sideline out. He is actually better at the 15-20 yard out than he is the 10 yarder. McCoy seems to have a solid arm as far as strength goes, but then again so does Schaub. And armstrength isnt the end all be all, just ask Ryan Leaf.
Schaub is doing great things this season, I like him. Nobody will remember that Schaub lead the team to a good field goal range, just because the kicker missed it twice, also in the titans game, the pass that dropped slaton, was huge. Also losing Daniels is hurting Schaub (and the texans) success, imagine how could be if the texans had daniels, comparing Owen to Welker when he was injured, how the pats suffered, look what happen if Jason Witten were injured, or Dallas Clark I dont trust a lot in the NFL rating because if a WR drops the ball, the QB get the incomplete pass and lows the rating, but if the QB throws a bad pass but the WR does an amazing catch, so the complete pass is on the pass, or if a WR cant control the ball, and gets INT, even when the pass was perfect its on the QB rating. Also if a WR caught a pass, and does great moves to escape from the defenders, and goes a lot of yards after the catch, the QB gets those yards and boost his rating.
I can go with that. Its just about answering the thread question based on watching games. Just like holding Slaton acountable for fumbles, the coaches for bad game management, its holding Schaub accountable for tossing away games. Lucky for Schaub there's blame to go around. Is the QB the one thats supposed to bring the team back from all obstacles and miscues done by all the other positions on the field? Only the truly elite are able to do that, with some exceptions like Eli Manning or Vince Young. Thats why people equate talent with clutchness, cuz for the most part they are mutual. And I guess clutch play is the right of passage that moves a QB into the elite class. Thats how its always been though! Reading this comment, it makes better sense of some of the responses I've read. Which is a bit discouraging for me, expecting some of the expressed opinions to be unbiased though really its kind of apparent. And it should have been expected that people would have some home state agendas within any kind of Texans talk. I fooled myself on this, shoulda seen it coming. Lets face it, Texans fans have been looking for a big identity to get behind. The big sexy QB, the big name head coach like Bill Cowher. Or superstar player. If success on the field wont legitimize the franchise, then getting their "own" type of support is the way to go. After all these years, I wouldnt be too surprised if people would rather have Tim Tebow at QB.
