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Is Matt Schaub clutch?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by macalu, Nov 9, 2009.

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Is Matt Schaub clutch?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Landlord Landry

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    and you are allowed to watch football how ever you so choose, but just know that, when you watch football this way, it tends to lead to uneducated football opinions, which you clearly display here.
     
  2. RocketMania1991

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    Just curious what are you using to classify Schaub as a clutch quarterback.

    First off has he EVER lead the texans to a come from behind victory...?
    I can think of the Miami Dolphins game, but besides that nothing really sticks out.

    The guys never even played more than 11 games in a season,never made the playoffs, never had an above .500 record in a season as a starter.

    What kind of evidence can we cite to lead us to believe Schaub is a clutch player.

    It's almost ridicuouls that we are even having this argument.We are talking about the REGULAR season.The regular season is normally a warm-up for those true "clutch" players such as Manning,Brady,Favre....etc.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    LOL - ok pal...whatever you think.

    I think your opinion about Schaub is laughable...and uneducated concerning football.

    Maybe you need to watch the rest of the NFL games to get a better idea of what is and isn't clutch play from a QB.

    Let me give you a hint, it is not throwing a pick 6 against Arizona, or Indy, when trying to make a comeback.

    DD
     
  4. Shroopy2

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    ....Instead of a lengthy response to that, I'll just say that neither QBs themselves have made any excuses on record that any of us know about. Its their fans acting as their spokesmen doing that.

    I'm not using single instance exceptions to the rule, and stretching out small sample sizes making it look like the general rule. I mention actual things that happened on field. I VERY MUCH understand there is no defining Captain Comeback drive by Schaub. I also see that he's put his team in position a few times.

    Its like in baseball with 2 outs in the 9th, tied game with a runner on 2nd, Albert Pujols gets a base hit to drive the winning run home. Next game same situation Lance Berkman gets a base hit but the runner trips around 3rd base and gets thrown out at home.

    Albert Pujols gets the clutch title, Berkman did 90-95% what Pujols did with his hit. Is it really about saying Berkman should have drove it more into the gap? Point is the runner helped decide the outcome.
     
  5. Landlord Landry

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    Schaub took his team down field and put the ball on the one yard line against the cards in that same game. moot point. would you like to discuss all the other times he has put this team in position to win/extend games? I know those type of meaningless facts are irrelevant to you, but....they are there anytime you are willing to accept reality.

    today's pick six was unfortunate and badly timed, but thats not the reason they lost the game. it was a group effort loss.

    maybe you need to quit watching players as YOU stated, and start watching the entire game. There are 52 other players on this team.
     
  6. CometsWin

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    I almost forgot to say... another clutch, losing performance by Matt Schaub today. The guy is money.
     
  7. RocketMania1991

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    He threw a pick 6 in that cards game...then lead his team down field.

    Are you trying to say that was a clutch drive.

    He costed his team 7 points, and tried to make up for it, and failed to at the end of that game.
    To little to late.
     
  8. sammy

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    What about methodically marching your team down within FG range in the past 2 games ? He didn't bring us back either @ Tenn in week 2. No, that wasn't clutch :rolleyes:

    You mean the Arizona game where Schaub brought us back from 21-0? The game where he took us down to the goal line but the Texans couldn't capitalize on the final drive. I think we ran it the last 3 out of 4 plays in that possession.

    Then you have the game against the Jags. He took us down to the goal line in the closing seconds once again but Brown failed to score.

    No one is saying that he was clutch today but the guy has been getting it done all season. He is still on pace for great numbers. Our record could be better but its not. Blame goes all around but the QB position is stable for the Texans. Period.
     
  9. sammy

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    Peyton practically threw a pick 6 today which was negated by the penalty by Smith. It happens to the best of them. Manning and Schaub have the same # of picks this season.

    It should have been a clutch drive. Yes he missed one throw but Chris Brown & the play calling were the unclutch factors in that final possession.

    Schaub is on pace for 4700 yards, 31 TD's, & 16 picks. Can someone please tell me if 2:1 TD to INT ratio is good or not ?
     
  10. DaDakota

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    No doubt, it is not all his fault, who said that?

    But he nuts it up far too often in bad situations...

    And his arm is just weak, the out passes he throws are hard to watch they are so slow....

    I think he is an AVERAGE QB....but he could use a better RB to help him, for sure.

    What is the teams overall record when he starts?

    Ws and Ls those are the stats that matter.

    DD
     
  11. Landlord Landry

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    I'm saying that when the team needed points he delivered. and Schaub actually put that ball in the endzone, (another) BS foul on Walters negated an obvious td and of course brown fumbled the ball, both were clearly schaubs fault, and schaubs only. :rolleyes:
     
  12. Landlord Landry

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    signed,

    trent dilfer and sexy rexy.

    again, the product of watching players and not football.
     
  13. RocketMania1991

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    Landlord Landry, i'm curious why you even consider Matt Schaub clutch.

    The guy has never started more than 11 games a season,never made the playoffs,never lead a team to a .500 record.

    Last time I checked clutch players were made in the playoffs.

    Nobody cares what you do in the regular season. Prime Example: Alex Rodirguez

    The sad part is Schaub hasn't even done the clutch plays during the regular season.

    A clutch quarterback is one who puts the team on his back, and carries them when nothing else is going right.

    Since Matt Schaub has started for the Texans he has maybe lead them back for one maybe two, three games ?

    You don't EVER classify a player as being clutch in the regular season.

    Until Matt Schaub leads this team to the playoffs, and makes plays on a stage where it truly matters. He remains unclutch.
     
  14. wallyj12

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    haha...i said that exact same line earlier in this thread
     
  15. Landlord Landry

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    dude, this post is so full of holes and contradictions, I couldn't possibly address all of them tonight.

    anyway, what does it matter? I'm not going to change your mind. you already have it made up. if you need someone to explain it to you, then you either aren't paying attention or don't understand what is going on.
     
  16. Rocket River

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    What is the Argument here?

    Whether Schaub is GOOD or if Schaub is CLUTCH?

    Two different things.

    Rocket River
     
  17. RocketMania1991

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    Let me sum it up for you.

    You aren't recognized as clutch for what you do in the regular season.
    Schaub should not even be discussed with the word clutch.

    Guys like Brady,Manning are guys you don't want to hand the ball with 2 minutes left in the game.

    Nobody is intimadated by Schaub with 2 minutes left. He has yet to earn that respect that great quarterbacks get.
     
  18. BucMan55

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    Some are trying to equate the two, on both sides.


    Schaub is Better than he is Clutch. If that makes any sense.
     
  19. BucMan55

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    Fixed by your own definition.
     
  20. RocketMania1991

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    Thank you.
    People need to understand Schaub isn't feared by anyone in this league.
     

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