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Is Lebron's Game 6 vs. Boston (2012) a top 5 NBA playoff moment?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by TheresTheDagger, Jun 19, 2013.

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Is Lebrons 2012 Game 6 performance in Boston one of the top 5 moments in NBA history?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    55.2%
  3. Not sure

    8.3%
  1. t_mac1

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    Yes it is. Considering the circumstances, and how he did win his first ring that year, it was a breakthrough for potentially a top 5 player of all time. EVERYONE was writing the Heat off after that game 5.
     
  2. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    Anything to discredit LeBron from any accomplishments he may have made throughout his career.

    I don't understand, since when did basketball become an individual sport like golf or tennis, when it all falls on just one guy or if the team wins, it will be just because of that one guy that made the shot not the teams collective effort.

    There are what we call teammates in basketball and everyone needs to perform on the same level to win a championship, this ain't no Andre Agassi Wimbledon match, it's basketball.
     
  3. Firebomb525

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    I think Game 4 of the 2011 NBA finals was a virtuoso performance; stunning.

    ;)
     
  4. BleedRocketsRed

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    Discredit?

    He had a monster Game 5 against Detroit and played like utter **** in Game 6 (they won but he wasn't really a reason why).
     
  5. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    Right.

    Cause Daniel Gibson played the Pistons all alone and passed the ball to himself to hit 3 after 3, the whole time, no teammates, no coaches, it's all on him.

    There is more than one way to contribute to a win besides points and FG%, you people do realize this no?
     
  6. KingCheetah

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    That big stat line is pretty hollow considering how he played at the end of the game.
     
  7. TheresTheDagger

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    Ok. Lets put Lebrons EASTER CONFERENCE FINALS win up against some on my list.

    Bill Russell 30 points 40 rebounds in a NBA FINALS GAME 7 vs. the Lakers
    Walt Frazier 36/7/19 in an NBA FINALS GAME 7 vs. the Lakers (with Willis Reed out)
    Magic Johnson 42/15/7 in NBA FINALS GAME 6 @ Sixers playing out of position at center as a rookie (no Kareem).
    Michael Jordan 38/7/5 in NBA FINALS GAME 6 @ Jazz (FLU GAME)
    Michael Jordan 45/1/1 in NBA FINALS GAME 6 @ Jazz (Byron Russell push off game)
    Shaq O'neal 43/19/4 in NBA FINALS GAME 1 (2000)
    Michael Jordan 55/8/4 in NBA FINALS GAME 4 vs. Barkley/KJ's Suns (1993)
    Isiah Thomas 43/8/6 in NBA FINALS GAME 6 of finals on a sprained ankle @ Lakers (1988)

    Those are ALL NBA finals games...most of them close out game 6 or 7 performances...most of them on the road. And this isn't all of them...there are more.

    Slightly higher stakes than the ECF right?

    Some of them involve injury, missing players or sickness. Lebron wasn't sick, injured, or missing Dwayne Wade in game 6 of the ECF. One of them even made a rookie play WAY out of position.

    Any other arguments?
     
  8. clippy

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    First off, half the people in this thread are confused and are talking about yesterday's game, which isn't what this is about. This is about Game 6 LAST YEAR.

    Regarding your games, TheresTheDagger, certainly the Finals is more significant but the pressure isn't nearly as great unless it's an elimination game, so that gets rid of the last 6 games on the list. I was actually at the 1988 Laker game and what Isiah did was freaking godly but the Pistons lost that game so it's not as significant.

    I can't comment on the first two games since I didn't see them, and I doubt anyone here did either.
     
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  10. rockbox

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    The Piston's game was a sick performance. 29 out of the last 30 points for the Cavs against the best defensive team in the league.
     
  11. JayGoogle

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    Nope, some of them do not. Can't tell you how many times someone will bring up FG% in a player discussion as if that's the end all be all or something.
     
  12. J Sizzle

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    That's the main LOF argument when Harden has an off shooting night, yet they always overlook the passing, steals, FT's, etc. that he contributes as well. It's just stupid.

    And ill never understand why somebody's legacy is tarnished in the eyes of some when a player's teammate has a great game. It makes no sense. Was Jordan ever criticized when Pippen had great games? One of the great things about basketball is anybody can step up at any time and you never know who it'll be. Kind of like Danny Green and Gary Neal busting out in this Finals series.

    When people use selective arguments like that, it's very easy to tell who knows the game and who doesn't.
     
  13. JayGoogle

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    Yeah, some people really overvalue shot efficiency. To some the only thing that matters first is you shoot efficiently.

    You also see people all over the internet saying "Lebron lucky to have Allen." etc etc.

    Yeah because Michael had Kerr. Hakeem, Duncan, Kobe/Shaq benefited tons from Horry. Last year in the finals Chalmers and Battier played big. Not sure what folk expect.

    I think some guys get these huge expectations and some people literally expect everything. It wasn't enough that Lebron got his team back in the game last night, he then had to hit the game winner too...and then dominate OT and then they would have been satisfied.

    Also for the OP I don't know if it is a top 5 playoff moment, not sure it matters. What matters in the end is the accomplishments a player has earned because those are facts. Some people remember certain moments more fondly than others.
     
  14. clippy

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    You'd think that, except that's pretty much what he did in the game 6 this thread refers to and STILL people here don't want to give LeBron any credit!
     
  15. TheresTheDagger

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    Absolutely agree. I think the majority of those who think Lebron's performance IS top 5 all time would tend to be younger who haven't witnessed more of these great moments.

    More seasoned NBA fans (nice way of saying old as dirt) like myself who have been watching the NBA for decades would perhaps have more perspective, don't you think?
     
  16. clippy

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    Your memory must be fading old man because you still haven't named 5 performances better. Why don't you post the ones from your list you think are objectively better and we'll see how they stack up. Stat-wise they may be comparable but there is no way the circumstances are the same, and if you aren't going to factor in circumstance, you may as well just pull Kobe's "81".
     
  17. TheresTheDagger

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    I've. Already. Done. This.
     
  18. clippy

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    Which games? Most of the games you posted aren't even statistically as good as LeBron's, but I also showed you that the pressure and circumstance isn't close to the same. An elimination game, especially one that has such an impact on LeBron's legacy (against a rival and effectively for his first title) is a huge amount of pressure. It would be like if Magic had come through in game 7 in 1984, or if the series in 1985 had gone 7. There are just very few games that have this blend of pressure and performance. You still haven't shown me any. Maybe the Walt Frazier one but I didn't see it.
     
  19. dsid411

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    This says it all. Come back with a worthy list of games where they carried the pressure, weight and scrutiny that LBJ faced before that game.
     
  20. TheresTheDagger

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    I've. Already. Done. This.

    And I could have included more. But I get the feeling no matter how many games I include it would never be enough for you. So why bother?
     

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