I'll make my decision when he goes up against guys that can play defense. Bogans and Mathews you'd expect those kind of nights.
Bogans is known for defense, and that's why Pop starts him over Jefferson. To give the starting lineup a wing defender.
Um, really? It's one thing to hate on the guy, but he did have a midrange game. What's even more is he had a post game with his back to the basket; something Martin does not have.
You do realize that the only reason why Sloan gave Matthews minutes in the first place is because of his defensive effort, right? And the only reason why Bogans is in the starting line up for the Spurs is because of his - guess what - DEFENSE! Haters gonna hate.
Nope, i've been telling people dude is just a straight scorer. I didn't expect him to take this long to get comfy but whatever. He's doing his thing now.
wasn't alex english the leading overall scorer in the 80s? Scoring with the best of em would be an understatement then
His lack of toughness and poor D, cancels out his offense for me. You can't just let people rip the ball away from you when you come down with the rebound, and everybody knows about his poor D. For me I think Morey miscalculated on this deal. Landry was more of a championship piece then Martin is imo.
Are you kidding me? Lack of toughness and poor D? His defense is average and just because he have a skinny frame does not mean he's weak. From all the post you posted, I come to realized you don't know the basics of basketball. Carl Landry is good but Kevin Martin is better. Carl Landry isn't a great defender too. He's an average defender. Kevin Martin is a great efficient scorer that we desperately need. Not only Morey, but Rick Adelman wanted Kevin Martin badly. Plus we don't need him to waste all his energy trying to play defense. That's why we have Shane and Trevor. Would you want your best scorer to spend most of his energy trying to play defense so you can have Trevor and Shane take most of the shots? Defense will always be overcome by better offense. Expect Kevin Martin to average 25 ppg with Houston. Carl Landry is good but most likely already reached his peaked. Landry isn't going to get much better than he is now. Plus why are you trying to compare Landry to Martin? Landry plays with power and intensity while Martin is crafty and agile. You cannot expect any good offensive SG to come to Houston and be like an Artest. Ron Artest is a great defender and he is tough but his offensive skills is no where near Martin. Kevin Martin can make Aaron Brooks, Ariza and Lowry better. He takes the scoring load away from everyone. He is a go to scorer. Finding a great scorer in the NBA nowadays isn't easy and when you have an opportunity to land one like Kevin Martin, you take it.
Well the difference between Lowry and Martin is that Lowry don't have a jumpshot so he relies on driving in and drawing fouls while Kevin Martin goes to the line a lot but his jump shot is flawless and if he don't get to the line much, he can still score at an efficient rate. He can cut in for a layup, he can slash, and he can MAKE his jump shots.
how can so many people be so short sighted or maybe I should say blind on this subject..... as far as this team has been assembled there is one overlying theme to remember....this is yao's team and we made moves accordingly.... when he is back and in the game he is getting nearly all of our touches down low, which in turn greatly reduces what landry excels at and where we use him most...so why people continue to think that trading for a position of need by giving away a position of abundance was the wrong move just confuses the hell out of me....not to mention that we traded a guy who really has shown nothing more than being a great 6th man to get a guy who has proven that not only can he be a top ten scorer in the league but he can do it more efficiently than almost everyone at his position....we made over like bandits in this deal....mcgradys already getting hurt again in ny...landry is putting up about the same numbers with increased minutes in sac while kevin martin and the rest of us rockets fans with a brain are more than just excited about what can be accomplished next year with this team
Martin is better, thats why Sac has been in the lottery all these years when he has been the man right? He put up numbers because he was on a bad team. Look at what happened ever since the trade. Landry gave us heart hustle and is inside presence. And I'm compareing the two because on the Bill Simmons podcast, I kept hearing Morey saying Martin was a championship piece. A "star" shooting guard with weak D isn't a championship piece. Ask Reggie Miller. I give you that Landry doesn't have strong D, but a guard with weak D will kill us more then a Power forward with weak D, cause lets face it its a guard's game.
The trade was a clear cut upgrade. If you don't consider Martin a championship piece, then there are only a handful of championship pieces in this league. And Carl isn't one of them.
We already have two great wing defenders (Battier and Ariza) and a pretty decent defending PG. Martin will always defend the weaker opposing wing... plus: when you have a 7`6 guy in the middle, you can play the passing lanes more, and that is something that Martin excels at. Landry can be a great piece for a Championship contender... but probably not as a starter. He will always bring his energy off the bench, make hustle plays (while playing less than stellar defense). Martin is someone that can carry the scoring weight for 35 minutes a game - something we lacked bad ever since T-Mac got injured/quit/whatever you want to call it. AND: Martin is the way better shooter than T-Mac, and he is a lot more drive happy than the late T-Mac. Plus he gets to the line more. If you`d make a list of things you`d want of a wing for this team (with Yao), you`d pretty much come up with someone as Martin. Sure, Kobe, Lebron, D-Wade would be better, but there is no way we get one of them. And Martin is not very far away from the next guys on that list (Melo, Johnson, Durant...) but he fits our team at least as good as they do, AND he was available for us (while also coming at a cheaper price).
You just said it yourself. Thank you. We needed to upgrade the position desperately and DM got it done. We'll find another big in due time.
