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Is Johnny Football the Pick We Are Missing?

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  1. Bobbythegreat

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    Pass rushers anywhere near the caliber of Clowney are damn near impossible to find though, he's a "once a decade" type prospect.
     
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  2. Remii

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    No argument there... But you don't need a "once in a decade prospect" to build a great defense. Seattle doesn't have one. San Francisco doesn't have one. Carolina doesn't have one. Pittsburgh didn't have one when they won their super bowls with big ben and New England didn't have one either.

    If they can't trade the pick _ I have no problem with drafting Clowney.... But Dre knows it's a lot of holes on this team... Too many for one player to fill.
     
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    Greg Cosell sees “a wide variation” in Johnny Manziel’s quality of play

    Noted evaluator Greg Cosell of NFL Films has put on the tape of Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel.

    And as Cosell told 104.5 FM “The Zone” in Nashville on Wednesday, he has seen good and bad things.

    “As you evaluate and transition him . . . there’s a wide variation in his play, so there’s a consistency issue,” said Cosell. “You have to decide how you want to deal with that issue. There’s a lot to like, but there’s also some that’s concerning, so how do you deal with that?”

    Speaking on the station’s “The Midday 180″ program, Cosell said that Manziel’s final two regular-season starts of 2013 — losses to LSU and Missouri — were notable in how poorly the 2012 Heisman Trophy winner played.

    “If those were the first two games you put on and watched, you’d say he’s almost undraftable,” Cosell said. “He was so bad in those two games that you’d struggle to figure out, ‘Can I even draft this guy?’”

    In those defeats, Manziel completed a combined 40-of-76 passes for 419 yards with two TDs and two interceptions. He was also held to 75 yards rushing on 23 attempts.

    Cosell noted that any team considering Manziel had to have an idea of what he did well and what he lacked.

    “I would say overall, he’s a small quarterback with outstanding movement and improvisation,” Cosell said of Manziel, who was listed at 6-foot-1 and 210 pounds in college. “At times, he showed very strong flashes of structured pocket play that clearly project to the NFL, so I think it’ll come down to how you balance these issues.

    “The other thing I say about Manziel is he’s much more of a see-it-throw-it quarterback than an anticipation thrower. He’s not really a timing/anticipation thrower on film. So you have to figure out the pros and the cons and where you stand on those pros and cons.”

    Cosell said that based on his study, Central Florida quarterback Blake Bortles was the passer he liked most at this time.

    However, Cosell also noted that none of the draft-eligible quarterbacks were of the caliber of a recent standout.

    “When you talk about quarterbacks being high picks, there’s no Andrew Luck in this draft,” Cosell said of the No. 1 overall pick of the 2012 draft by Indianapolis. “There’s no one who would even be in the same conversation.”​

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Good interview w/ <a href="https://twitter.com/georgewhitfield">@georgewhitfield</a> just now on ESPN's NFL Live. Calls <a href="https://twitter.com/AggieFootball">@AggieFootball</a>'s Johnny Manziel &quot;the new prototype&quot; QB.</p>&mdash; bill hofheimer (@bhofheimer_espn) <a href="https://twitter.com/bhofheimer_espn/statuses/433713641196494848">February 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  4. zeeshan2

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    We have yet to find out how much money Johnny Manziel will make as a football player on the field in the National Football League, but we know one thing is for certain, and that’s that Manziel will make a ton of money off the field in endorsements, and naturally Nike wants a piece in all of it.

    A Nike spokesperson confirmed to the Portland Business Journal that Manziel and the most famous athletic outfitting company will meet, and reportedly about a possible partnership between the two sides.

    This report comes nearly a month after Under Armour made their initial pitch to the 2012 Heisman Trophy winner by plastering his face all over their headquarters in Baltimore.

    With Nike now in the mix, which we all saw coming sooner or later, it’s going to be mighty interesting to watch the bidding war take place between Nike and Under Armour to be able to make millions off the Johnny Manziel brand.

    Because, in today’s world, someone like Manziel isn’t just a football player–he’s his own brand.
     
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    Wonder what would happen if he fell during draft day, maybe not even get picked in the first

    I would have LULZ at Nike
     
  6. Ziggy

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    They'd still be richer than God, brux.
     
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    You know Manziel is going in the first. Take your schadenfreude somewhere else.
     
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    At this point last year, people would have said the same about Geno Smith.
     
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    Anything can happen, especially with what guys like Cosell and Casserely are saying
     
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    Its not like they were struggling to make money before, I am confused
     
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    Where was Geno's monster endorsement?
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    Ah, so endorsements make players better then?
     
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    Players getting endorsements is like cars getting racing stripes, they're cool and all, but they don't make the performance any better.
     
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    They'd still make a lot of money because he really is his own brand.

    "REGIME" and "Johnny football" gear would be flying off the shelves.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    I dunno about that, Tim Tebow gear isn't exactly flying off the shelves...
     
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    Nah, it works the other way around, brah.
     
  17. REEKO_HTOWN

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    Tim Tebow had the highest selling Jersey in his rookie year in the NFL
     
  18. Remii

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    I believe Jersey sales are shared so it doesn't matter to the team he played for. What's important is if a player puts butts in seats and eyes on TV because that's where owners can individually make a big chunk of change.

    But winning could do that for anyone.
     
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    In my eyes this is a likelier scenario.
     
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