If you read the rest of the post and not just the first line I also mentioned that Johnny did it in the SEC... And I believe Tim Tebow is the only quaterback on your list that did it in the SEC and I don't think even the people who hate Johnny most are comparing him to Tebow. And Tebow had a much better team than Johnny as well. Name the quarterbacks drafted with the #1 overall pick in recent history that played in a weak conference and hardly ever faced elite talent and how well did they do in the NFL... I'll start off your list off with David Carr.
He was also playing with first round talent. How many SEC teams run the air raid spread? It's known that Bama and Saban was frustrated with the tempo of A&M's offense. Not many teams can defend that style of offense. SEC, BIG 12, you name it.
Statistics are absolutely either THE best or the second best way to evaluate success in the NFL, the only other method being film review. That said, stats from college don't always translate.
Well The Great Saban played him twice so it's not like Johnny snuck up on Alabama the 2nd time around. LSU isn't making those excuses.
You wanted to play the name the quarterback game. Name a QB out of the spread that has done very well in the league. RG 3 was an exception but he has shown that he can't stay healthy. The same concern a lot of people have for JFF.
Neither does poise in the pocket against weak competition.... Game tape doesn't always translate either. It's a big crap shoot with quarterbacks.
The way I see it, bad tape and bad stats in college can push a player down a lot more than good tape or good stats in college. It's similar to being an NBA player in the D league, just because you score 25 points a game doesn't mean you are an NBA caliber player but only scoring 3 would say that you are certainly not an NBA caliber player.
You clearly didn't "get it". Stats are the best way to judge NFL players, not prospects from college.
Was it the similar type of spread, tempo? 2800 passing yards for Cam suggests it was not. Kaep averaged 7 YPA (21 td's, 8 picks) in his last season at Utah. Not the same system, homie. Unless, you think Florence, Chang, etc are superior players bc they put up godly #'s compared to this.
Guess I should have more clear in my initial statement. I assumed it was implied that we are discussing the evaluation of college QBs and their how their success translates to the NFL: College statistics do not translate to NFL success or failure. They are almost meaningless
There was no need for YOU to be more clear, I didn't misunderstand you, it was you that misunderstood me. I think you just needed to read what I wrote over again in an effort to better comprehend the words I wrote.
I don’t think college competition translates wholly to the NFL, though. Tim Couch and JaMarcus Russell both played in the SEC; Sam Bradford the Big 12. Meanwhile, did Aaron Rodgers (Cal), Ben Roethlisberger (Miami, OH) or Matt Ryan (BC) play against elite competition in college? That's why this is ultimately a crapshoot; there’s no one, two or five things that make success in the NFL easy to predict.
You guys have a good argument going so I'm not going to step in on those points. Just wanted to point out, quickly, that Kaepernick went to Nevada not Utah. That is all.
I honestly don't care. The draft gives me a headache; wading through thousands of posts by armchair experts an aneurysm. But I do think the elusive search for some kind of verifiable evidence that this or that absolutely means a QB will succeed/fail in the NFL always entertains me.
