1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Is Jeremy Lin your Point Guard of the Future?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SF3isBack!!, Apr 28, 2013.

?

How many of you are comfortable with Jeremy Lin as our starting point guard?

  1. Comfortable

    58.6%
  2. Uncomfortable

    41.4%
  1. Jetfuel

    Jetfuel Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2012
    Messages:
    530
    Likes Received:
    50
    I think this is a fair point. Our game plan was neither here not there. It was tailored to the squad we had because we had no real inside presence apart from Asik and he hasn't been a great finisher a lot of the time.

    I think an argument can be made for having more structure to our offense or at least having it as an OPTION to go to when plan A fails. But you can give the coaching staff a certain amount of leeway because the team was thrown together at the last second. IMO their cardinal sin was the over-reliance on harden and the seeming lack of accountability where he was concerned.

    Harden holding the ball till 3 seconds left in the shot clock and then throwing it to someone for THEM to jack up a bad shot, or taking a bad contested shot himself, or simply running in 1 on 5 when they've had a chance to get set for him and turning the ball over, is not a good offensive move in any playbook in any kind of offense, and it happened far too much late in games for my liking.

    But I agree, with a proper off season and a decent inside presence, we should be a lot better next year.
     
    1 person likes this.
  2. Fighton

    Fighton Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    1,053
    Likes Received:
    63
    no, they didn't have to and that's not the point. he flew into houston expecting a different offer, one that was leaked to the press. it was the only real offer he got, and if he hadn't accepted it, it might not have been presented to him again and the only real offer would've been the 1.2mil qualifying offer from nyc.

    the bigger point is, he needed to negotiate in good faith. no point for houston to give him an offer sheet if they didn't believe he was negotiating in good faith. what that means is that he can't go back and tell new york what the amount is. he cannot say to houston "oh let me think about it" and then go back and tell nyc what it is. that would not be negotiating in good faith. new york needed an actual signed contract to match. they can't match a hypothetical contract.
     
  3. larsv8

    larsv8 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,916
    Except that isn't true.

    The Rockets have about 20 million dollars to spend to fit just under the luxury tax threshold which is realistically the ideal spot to be as a contender.

    PF is our biggest position of need, followed by PG. Either spending that 20 million on a max caliber PF and keeping Lin, or spending the extra 10 to get Paul and adding a 10 million dollar PF (Milsap?) is the best use of that money.
     
  4. RickyNewport

    RickyNewport Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2012
    Messages:
    1,636
    Likes Received:
    27

    If you've ever played organized basketball on any level or even pick up games at the playground, what I said wouldn't seem odd... Heck, Sam Mitchell says it every other day on the NBA channel...

    And I got more shocking news for you also, teams are less likely to win a championship running their offense completely through their point guard. Once you get past Magic and Thomas the pickings are slim. Parker had Manu so it's hard to count him. Rondo got hot during the playoffs and you can throw in Billups if you want... But it's more great ball dominating point guards without rings than there are with _ Nash, Payton, Tim and Penny Hardaway, Stockton, Iverson, Kidd, etc (not counting the rings a couple of these guys got when they weren't the center piece of the team)...
     
  5. RickyNewport

    RickyNewport Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2012
    Messages:
    1,636
    Likes Received:
    27
    Other NBA teams better be worried because I expect these boys to have their 5h!t together next season. And I expect McHale to manage the game better as well... He has to get better also..
     
  6. RickyNewport

    RickyNewport Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2012
    Messages:
    1,636
    Likes Received:
    27
    That make sence... Good for Lin that he signed...
     
  7. CP30

    CP30 Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2013
    Messages:
    138
    Likes Received:
    3
    You can't structure an offense that comes into a season with virtually no identity in terms of skills and the way they play the game. We'd have been left with a much less productive offense and a lot more awkwardly ended plays.

    We have to remember that this was a brand new team. Not just in terms of the starting lineup but the bench as well.
     
  8. Razsan

    Razsan Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2013
    Messages:
    774
    Likes Received:
    26
    First, I wasn't being sarcastic, I was agreeing with you...second, it;s not about great guards, it's about having an offense run by the right players. Let's take a look at teams that have won. 5 lakers and 6 bull teams running the triangle, 3 spurs teams with a very efficient set, Mavericks, Heat, Celtics...go right down the list...offenses with a purpose. NONE of them played ISO ball as the primary play during crunch time..
     
  9. Razsan

    Razsan Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2013
    Messages:
    774
    Likes Received:
    26
    No doubt...but still the fact remains, we had no offensive set. I fully expect it to get better next season.
     
  10. Htownballer38

    Htownballer38 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2013
    Messages:
    9,069
    Likes Received:
    1,286
    Yes ,,unless we get CP3
     
  11. pcheung08

    pcheung08 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2012
    Messages:
    569
    Likes Received:
    10
  12. b2bizchina

    b2bizchina Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2003
    Messages:
    2,579
    Likes Received:
    183
    We need a defensive PG like Hinrich
    Maybe trade Lin,then get Hinrich from Chicago
     
  13. Panda23

    Panda23 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2012
    Messages:
    8,566
    Likes Received:
    620
    wow people really dont like Lin LOL

    you want to trade a player with limited nba experience who has shown flashes of being a good point guard for an over the hill PG in hinrich? is he the missing piece to Moreys Championship puzzle?
     
  14. TJ VS TR

    TJ VS TR Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2013
    Messages:
    2,399
    Likes Received:
    37
  15. TJ VS TR

    TJ VS TR Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2013
    Messages:
    2,399
    Likes Received:
    37
    I am wondering what kind of offense McHale installed during training camp. How much did the Harden signing change that?
     
  16. SF3isBack!!

    SF3isBack!! Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2007
    Messages:
    10,163
    Likes Received:
    1,879
    I made this point earlier, we can't blame James Harden for Lin giving up the ball. They were blaming Mchale too but like I said I don't think we were really running a lot of set plays which means Lin could have been more aggresive no one was stopping him. I simply defered to Harden and sometimes Parsons.
     
  17. Knickskiller

    Knickskiller Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2012
    Messages:
    1,953
    Likes Received:
    52

    actually if u watch the playoff games. Harden was stinking it on the 4th (as usual) with his isos. Finally he smarten out and started team balling to garcia and delfino and we won.

    go check the post interviews on Mchale on those games. it shines a light on that Mchale had been trying all season to contain Harden from doing all-iso on the 4th. - frankly i was surpised by this insight.

    Guys As much as we love Harden , and find myself praying for him to go all god mode during clutch. We have to admit that he is still growing as a player and leader.
     
  18. SF3isBack!!

    SF3isBack!! Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2007
    Messages:
    10,163
    Likes Received:
    1,879
    Yeah my post had nothing to do with Harden or the playoffs.
     
  19. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    29,646
    Likes Received:
    10,123
    I does make sense to gauge his value. You never know.
     

Share This Page