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Is Jeremy Lin your Point Guard of the Future?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SF3isBack!!, Apr 28, 2013.

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How many of you are comfortable with Jeremy Lin as our starting point guard?

  1. Comfortable

    58.6%
  2. Uncomfortable

    41.4%
  1. Faithful123

    Faithful123 Member

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    I totally agree with you. Lin should not play with Harden. He played much better when Harden s not on the court. Let Beverly start and ln to close. Lin can play 3rd and 4th quarter to help the team win. I think Rockets has no PG because everyone wants to controlled the ball.
     
  2. RickyNewport

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    That's because he signed the contact with the Rockets without letting the Knicks know what he was offered first... But maybe Lin automatically thought the Knicks would match regardless because they said they would or maybe he didn't want to be in NYC anyway... Who knows...

    But I do think if he keeps improving a team out there will offer him a big pay day. And if he feels like a lot of the LOFs feel about Harden holding him back, why would he stay with the Rockets...
     
  3. wfeebs

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    Hahahahahahaha wow. The highest scoring offense is horrendous. So what if were at our best when we run and gun?? Does that make it a bad offense that we successfully turn defense into offense quickly? If it was so easy wouldn't every team just run and gun? Good small sample size on those games. Here's some others: dropping 125 on Utah in Utah. 120 on the bulls Christmas day. Running the grizzlies out of the gym and scoring 120 on them. I don't care if Lin is your favorite player, but what pisses me off is that you worship him to the point where you falsely talk about the team! God forbid the rockets are good, but its because of people other than Lin!! (for what its worth, I think Lin is one of the guys that git us here, but others deserve more praise). You think if our offense was so easy to solve we wouldn't have LED THE NBA IN SCORING FOR MOST IF THE YEAR. Chucking up 3s?? It's basketball knowledge that the 3 pointer is one of the most efficient shots and we had a lot of good shooters on this team.

    You frankly don't know what you're talking about and with every post you write, it becomes more and more evident
     
  4. cw3k

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    No, they need to learn to play together and maximum both value on the court. The problem with Beverley is he cannot direct the offense.

    Btw, why does it matter if a person starting or not if that person play 30+ mpg? Does Ginobili or Jr Smith less important because they are not starters?
     
  5. Fighton

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    i think this has been rehashed many times before, but, even if lin comes off the bench and plays for 30min, he's still getting 20min with harden, since harden gets about 40min. lin AND harden will be on the court together for 20min a game.

    at this point, you let them play together for another year and see how that goes (they've had plenty of very, very explosive games together. don't forget that). they can either play together, or they can't. if they can't, you trade lin. you don't bring him off the bench because that doesn't solve the problem at all.

    manu doesn't come off the bench because he couldn't play together with parker. he plays very well with parker.
     
  6. RickyNewport

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    You do know Beverly showed up half way through the season right... So no one would expect him to direct the offense perfectly when the guys who have been with the team all season couldn't direct it perfectly either... So let's see how he does with an off-season and a training camp under his belt.

    And the Rockets have two guys on the court in Harden and Parsons who play with the ball a lot as well so directing the offense is never going to be the primary job for a point guard on this team.

    And I remember hearing Parsons saying during an interview that management (and or the coach) told him to work on his ball handling during the off-season. That was before they even got Lin and Harden. So the Rockets may where intending to let Parsons handle the ball more going into this past season regardless of who they picked up on the team.
     
  7. Fighton

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    he COULDN'T disclose to the knicks how much the rockets were offering him. legally, he cannot do that. imagine sitting with morey and les....

    "oh thanks for the offer. let me call the knicks first to tell them just to make sure they'll match it before i sign it, okay?" he and his agent would never work in the NBA if this happened.
     
  8. jordnnnn

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    If I'm not mistaken, the amount the Knicks legally could have offered him by rule before Lin received offers from anyone else was well below what he would have even considered accepting. He HAD to go out and find an offer for the Knicks to then match. Problem is there was only one offer on the table and the Knicks weren't expecting for him to get that big of an offer and the rest is history.
     
  9. RickyNewport

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    Manu also handles the ball A LOT when he's on the court as well...
     
  10. ThisVoice

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    He was told by Knicks management to go out the market and test the water, at the same time Knicks publically annouced they would match any contract offered to Lin. That tatic was used to low ball him and had been discussed numerous of times. The fact is, Knicks tried to low ball him and Lin got lucky with Rocket's contract.
     
  11. just a word

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    It was all over the papers at that point, right after the first contract, that Woodson says they'd match up to 1 billion. Morey restructured the contract into a poison pill, and the Knicks said no.

    Here:
    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8180998/nba-jeremy-lin-six-degrees-separation-poison-pill

    is a six part series that go through exactly what went down from six angles.
     
  12. RickyNewport

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    I didn't know players had to sign a contract immediately when it is presented to them...
     
  13. RickyNewport

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    Guess the Knicks where just blowing smoke about that billion...
     
  14. Razsan

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    And how did we do the last 7 games of the season again???? Ye of the living in the past and not realizing that teams figured us out by the end of season.
    Like I said, when shots are dropping, we look like heroes, when they're not, we have no appreciable inside game. You win championships by playing D and having an offensive game plan that INCLUDES; transition (which we do well), perimeter shooting and inside penetration.
    Here's an excerpt from a Bleacher Report article:

    Structure the Offense

    In Kevin McHale’s system, there was no structured offense. He gave his team the freedom to shoot, but there was a lot of standing around the perimeter and in the corner.

    As assistant coach Kelvin Sampson admitted to Zach Lowe of Grantland earlier this season:

    We don't have to stop practice and say, 'OK, now let's go over our plays.' We don't have any plays. During the flow of the game, very rarely do we run an actual play.

    The offense consists of isolation, the fast break and pick-and-rolls.
     
  15. wfeebs

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    You said our offense was HURRENDOUS...do you actually believe that? Oh do now you've included pick and rolls? Our offense better run pick and rolls we have 2 of the top 10 guys running pick and rolls! And you know when structure and complex offenses come? With age and experience. Look at our experience and and look at our offensive production , our offense was a revelation this year and your short sighted knowledge of basketball doesn't understand that! Last 7 games? For a "figured out" offense we sure did score a lot of points in the playoffs. And why stop at 7? Oh right because that extremely small sample size proves your point. Gotcha bro.
     
  16. Razsan

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    The offensive "game-plan" was horrendous. Why? Because as even Coach Sampson said....we didn't have one. There were no plays to go over, no sets to discuss. That doesn't work in the playoffs
    The reason I picked the last 7 was they were arguably the most important 7 of the season and we went 1-6.
    Sure we scored a lot but didn't when we had to..
     
  17. RickyNewport

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    I think it should be pointed out that running a half court offense is the hardest thing to accomplish in basketball. Even harder with guys who haven't been on the court with each other and have limited NBA experience, and then throw in the fact that they don't have a big man they can throw the ball down low to which makes half court offenses easier to run...

    Next season I think we will see a big improvement...
     
  18. wfeebs

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    1-6????? Where are you getting this from? Our game plan wasn't horrendous?? You think we can beat OKC by running sets?? No we beat them , as Morey put it, by increasing the variance! That means we needed to use the 3 as the great equalizer to beat a much better team. I'm done with you dude, no point in arguing with someone who is so pro-lin/anti-McHale that you have no idea why things occur.
     
  19. wfeebs

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    Completely agree man,that's what I was saying. Between our personnel and our experience, what we accomplished on offense was remarkable. It doesn't get enough credit. I hope for some more complexity next year
     
  20. Razsan

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    Oddly...you make perfect sense. That may be the reason why we didn't have as many set plays, although I'm not 100% sold on that. Taking Lin out of the equation, let's just say that I hope the point guard is allowed to run more sets next year.
     

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