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Is Jeremy Lin your Point Guard of the Future?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SF3isBack!!, Apr 28, 2013.

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How many of you are comfortable with Jeremy Lin as our starting point guard?

  1. Comfortable

    58.6%
  2. Uncomfortable

    41.4%
  1. harden man

    harden man Member

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    lol....nice try.... what was kobe's? How about westbrooks? Hurt...ok i get it...

    Theres no question that series could not have gone worse for Lin....everyone knows it....BUT in game 2 before he was hurt he had 7 and 4....at the half....so is it reasonable he would have had 15 and 7 or 8? if he finished the game....yes it is.....and they would have won. If Lin didn't get hurt and Lin performed at season average the Rockets would have won....

    SO blame Lin...have at it....Look I like Harden, I like asik, I like Parsons...... I LIKE BEV....i like this team....young and getting better....

    we'll see....BUT sorry to tell you haters, Lin is not going anywhere anytime soon
     
  2. TheLastPope

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    What were the numbers of the guy next to T-mac

    Look how nash was a 12/6 guy next to Kobe

    As I.Thomas said " it took years for me and Dumars to get a feel for each others game"

    I would love a rotation of

    Lin
    Harden
    Parsons
    Howard
    Asik

    Bev
    Garcia
    T.Jones
    Smith

    that team is at worse a 55 win team:p
     
  3. Lateralus

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    It was just a question, don't get all bum hurt. :grin:
     
  4. harden man

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    i agree with you and it was pretty clear that this team was unable to score :)
    Get some help in the post and they will be just fine...a shot blocker who can score....from the outside...
     
  5. SF3isBack!!

    SF3isBack!! Member

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    You didn't really answer my question. But just so you understand all of our former point guards when compared to their future selves in a Rockets uniforms would pail in comparison. Daryl Morey is more than capable of finding someone to replace Lins production for a cheaper price and we Know this because he does it all the time.

    We cannot find anyone to replace Chandler Parsons production for what he is being paid thats one reason why he and Harden are pretty much set pieces to our puzzle.
     
  6. SF3isBack!!

    SF3isBack!! Member

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    Also Chandler could also be traded if the right trade came along but it's doubtful.
     
  7. ed_tx

    ed_tx Contributing Member

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    I was saying that based on his comment that if you can trade for someone you should. Of course you do. That even goes for Harden. If Lebron suddenly decided he wanted to play for the Rox but Harden was the only way we could get him we would trade Harden in a minute.

    I think we don't need to trade anyone. We are the youngest team in the NBA and made the playoffs with a team that didn't even come together until a few days before the season started. Just use our cap space wisely and add a solid 4 and we should be money.
     
  8. ed_tx

    ed_tx Contributing Member

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    Oops- just saw this after I typed my reply. Yes- what you said. Haha
     
  9. SF3isBack!!

    SF3isBack!! Member

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    I don't think thats enough, I would aim for three superstars we r trying to beat Miami.
     
  10. RRockets

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    Haters gonna hate no matter what you say!



     
  11. ed_tx

    ed_tx Contributing Member

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    Great breakdown. Also, add on the fact the Beverley made Kevin Martin look like an All-Star at times when he was covering him too...
     
  12. SF3isBack!!

    SF3isBack!! Member

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    Did you watch the memphis game today?
     
  13. Vpballa916

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    you're talking about Lin as if he is untouchable.

    Sorry, but Patrick Beverley, in one playoff series, has proven that he can at least do as much as Lin, while playing better defense.

    I hate to say it, but Lin has proven himself to be average-- so far.

    Even for those 1 1/2 games he played, he did not have much of an impact at all.

    He has not produced enough as a Rocket to be considered, 'untouchable'

    especially at that price tag.
     
  14. ed_tx

    ed_tx Contributing Member

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    I know that 3 superstars is the current fad ala Boston and Miami but I personally think 2 superstars and some really good other players with a good bench will compete just as we'll. OKC is arguably the team best suited to take on Miami and they don't have 3 superstars. They just have a solid squad.

    Even Durant said we remind him of OKC when they first started out together.
     
  15. SF3isBack!!

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    They were not going to beat Miami this year even with Westbrook.
     
  16. ed_tx

    ed_tx Contributing Member

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    You're right... we can have 3 superstars if we can figure a way to get K-Mart back!!! :grin:
     
  17. SF3isBack!!

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    LMAO!! ok ok settle down.
     
  18. randomfan

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    *************************************************************
    First, I AM NOT THE INFAMOUS "RANDOM FAN". He has a SPACE in his user name. I created this account 2 months before him!!!
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    I rarely post, but here are my two cents.

    I feel like Linsanity was a double-edged sword for Lin. It got him an NBA starter job, but it carries a lot of excess baggage that colors everyone's perception of him and his value.

    Imagine an alternative timeline, where Lin joins the Rocket in the absence of Linsanity. Lin gets cut by NY. Morey, ever the dumpster diver of talent, thinks Lin can be a contributing member and offers him a cheap contract, say <$1 million a year, for 3 years. Of course Lin would be thrilled with that. He both starts and comes off the bench for his games, but largely performs as he did this season. Well... then we would all be hailing Morey as a genius and Lin as a bargain basement breakout with serious potential on a fantastic contract. Keeping Lin as PG, would be a no-brainer, either as a sufficient starter or a fantastic backup, and another young guy-asset with a high upside.

    Instead, we have an $8 million/year salary cap Lin. I don't think he is over or underpaid. He is paid just about right... which is the exact opposite of Moreyball. Talented guards are a dime a dozen, if all you want is a decent starter. Finding these "fillers" on the cheap is Morey's specialty! So unless Lin develops into a borderline all-star talent (possible), his contract is not very... satisfying.

    Compare the rest of the starters. Harden's max contract is underpaid compared to what a CBA-free market would pay. Parsons - unfair contract in the Rockets favor. Asik - good deal, as talented big man are rare; as he develops further, his contract will become grossly underpaid. PF - all those cheap rookies, if any develop into a legit PF starter, he is a great deal (not guaranteed, but possible).

    Back to Lin. If all we consider is basketball/contracts at face value, then, yes, Lin at PG is not bad, but not particularly exciting... with two big exceptions.

    Exception 1: Lin develops into a borderline all-star. Then, his contract is a fantastic value. Can this happen? Maybe. We have to evaluate in years 2/3.

    Exception 2: Lin brings in more marketing value than other players. Say he brings in $5 million a year in advertising. Well, then his contract is sort of like $3 million/year (not quite, because he can affect cap penalties, etc.). Then, he would still be a great deal - i.e. a Moreyball contract. This, though, can seem totally unfair to others, in that the only reason he receives more marketing value is because he is the underdog Asian-American Linsanity player. This causes resentment, understandably with some fans and players. The media hype, yes hype, around him is what brings in the dollars and makes his contract a bargain, i.e. good for the owner and GM.

    So yes, Linsanity was good for Lin and the Rockets organization, yet at the same time the situation surrounding Lin can seem undeserved or annoying to others.

    All the media hype is really a shame. With less media attention, and perhaps a smaller contract, he would be another shining success of Moreyball, a team-oriented young developing player that is easy to root for. Instead, he is an extremely polarizing figure.

    I, for one, am excited to see how all these young talents develop, including Lin. But Morey's talent is not just finding bargains, but staying flexible, and who can say what will happen to Lin or the other players, minus Harden, during future trades. No matter what, the Rockets definitely have an intriguing future.
     
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  19. ed_tx

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    I don't think Lin is untouchable. Throw CP3 this way and Lin could easily be a part of the package.

    But I still can't believe people in here getting caught up in the Beverley hype. What's funny is that you guys are probably the same guys who said Linsanity wasn't a good enough sample size of his skills.

    And why can't people understand that Lin played hurt this series (except Game 1 when everyone sucked). Did you all see the bandage he had wrapped across his chest and shoulder? Don't you think that would affect one's shot even if you weren't hurt?
     
  20. SF3isBack!!

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    You sir! are repped. Awesome post!
     

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