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Is it time to trade Scola?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Garner, Nov 19, 2010.

  1. ChrisBosh

    ChrisBosh Member

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    Yao is old as hell? He's 30!!! He's coming back from a major injury and seems to be doing all right in his return. Also, how can you even mention Scola? The guy is playing out of his mind, and he's the type of player who won't lose his abilities too quickly as his skill set is in his head and not his athletic abilities. On Battier I have no argument, he's done.

    This doom and gloom picture is very short-sighted. This team is almost the same as last year minus Ariza. Lets take that sample size and then analyze, don't take 11-12 game into account and forget what was done last year. A sane and objective fan will understand things can and will turn around.
     
  2. Garner

    Garner Member

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    Jmad, best case scenario- what do the Rockets flip this season into?

    Lotto?
    First Round Exit?
    Second Round Exit?
    West. Conference Finals Exit?
    Championship Exit?
    Championship Victory.

    Tell me, how far does 20ppg get you?

    Beasely and Bargnani are both putting up 20+ppg per game as well. Where does one players singular stat line land an entire team? where do the Raptors and Timberpuppies land this season?
     
  3. Liberon

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    That's true, but NBA basketball works in this way. Once a power forward can no longer jump his way to being utterly useless has just about come full circle. And then you pull out the Karl Malone and Tim Duncan arguments... LOL When I you say a guy play's a ground game you would at least see a dunk or 2 once in a while not 1 or 2 within a season of basketball. Scola takes it to an extreme, he literally does not jump at all where it's required if you are 6'9". Tim is 6'11" and still dunks it home and block shots while Malone does it at clear opportunities.. Malone is still much stronger than Scola phyiscally..
     
  4. YaoMac09

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    This team was sucking with Yao and AB.

    The problem is that pretty much all our players are either good on D or good on O, we don't really have a player that is good on both ends, the closest we have is Lee and he is average on both ends.
    The Rockets still think Yao can lead them to the championship but this won't happen with the 24 minute cap, it is basketball suicide relying on someone like that.

    Scola's contribution on D includes staring at the man going in for the lay up and standing still guarding space, while he is a polished offensive player he plain sucks on D, like I predicted in the Game-thread: If Bargs outscores Scola we will lose and we did.

    I was optimistic about the Rockets but now I think the problem is not chemistry its personnel, no team in the league are as 1 dimensional as us.

    After what 8 years of being good but not great, I think it is time to rebuild and it would be silly not to cash Scola in.
     
  5. Tom Bombadillo

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    Aaron Brooks and Kevin Martin


    in combination with


    Luis Scola and Yao Ming.


    Will never, ever, ever, work...

    Blow
    It
    Up!
     
  6. Garner

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    I'm not getting into trade specifics. Simply, the very idea of trading Luis in principle.

    I understand that Luis is the best part about this team. Regardless of that fact, Luis will detoriate as do all NBA players. If the Rockets are incapabale of competeing more than a first round playoff exit, it becomes a business decision- a return on investment. You are selling high for a player that can produce effectively for a championship contending team, which the Rockets are not.
     
  7. Liberon

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    When a guy goes from moving at snail's pace to being a dead snail it's not fine. When I guy falls backwards and injuries his ankle it's not fine. I more than done with Yao.
     
  8. pbthunder

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    I am glad to see several posters believing that the season isn't over yet; so many seem to think it is. ATST, Scola's value will probably never be greater.
     
  9. ClutchCityReturns

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    First of all, this thread wasn't created after ONE game. It was created after an entire month's worth of games.

    Secondly, I doubt the threads which suggested trading those other players were created by this same poster.

    Just because the board as a whole might have a tendency to exhibit knee-jerk reactions, it doesn't mean that some posts aren't develop over time and given considerable thought.
     
  10. ChrisBosh

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    I think your post would be more convincing if you stated it like this: you were missing capital letters and three more "ever"'s. :p



    Will never, ever, ever, EVER, EVER, EVER, work...
     
  11. BradMiller

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    Yea Yao is doing good but he is too injury proned. What makes it worse is that this team was built around him. Scola is our best player but he hasn't gotten us anywhere. We need to capitalize on this and trade him while people still want him.

    Im not looking at the 11-12 games, im looking at the past YEARS. What have the rockets actually done recently? Made a few minor trades? Get eliminated during the first round of the playoffs? Miss the playoffs?
     
  12. Garner

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    That is all fine and well, but at the same time- you have to consider how long Adelman may be with the Rockets.

    Morey's statistical analysis extends so far, but if you don't think that Adelman had a hand in pulling for Brad Miller, you are a fool.

    The acquisition of both Miller and Martin (to a lesser extent) was an all in move for Rick. If he doesn't deliver, I believe it is something Les and Morey will both evaluate for the future.
     
  13. ChrisBosh

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    Oh please, you really don't get his game then. The guy's strength was NEVER his speed, everyone is faster than him, he is a robotic player who plays with timing, THAT is his strength. He just needs to get that back, unfortunately that's goint to take TIME, something feeble fans seem to be missing.
     
  14. JMAD21

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    Scola does more than just 20 ppg he also gets around 10 boards and hustles more than anyone!

    Its not just about HIS 20+ points though, its about martin and brooks doing the same thing, and Yao chipping in with 20+ every now and then! I think with our guys healthy we atleast make the second round! And if we cant stay healthy, thats no reason to trade our most consistent player!

    The fact of the matter is tonight was one of his worst games this season and he had 19 points and 5 boards! This board wants to trade players after one bad game, be patient, people have bad games!!
     
  15. ClutchCityReturns

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    HINT: Your posts will gain credibility if you don't use exclamation points after every single sentence like you're a 13 year old girl that just discovered texting.
     
  16. ChrisBosh

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    WHy blow it up now? Why not give Yao at least until the allstar break to see what he can do? The guy showed us something before he went down again, lets see where he can take it.

    Anyway I'm done too much negativity in the GARM.
     
  17. JMAD21

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    Thats my point! MOST the posters suggest to trade a player after one game!

    And obviously i gave it considerable thought! Otherwise I wouldn't have posted on the thread!
     
  18. Garner

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    This thread is not in response to Scola's performance tonight, but instead to the Rockets performance over 12 games and there obvious lack of contention, which you admit to.

    Even if you love Scola, which I do as well, if the Rockets are not in the Conference finals, what good does it do? There is no consulation in getting bounced in the first round of the playoffs.
     
  19. JMAD21

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    How about u respond to the post in stead of taking a failed attempt at a cut down!!! Thers three of them for u ;)
     
  20. YaoMac09

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    But!!! Scola gets more than just 20!!!!poi!!!nts, almost 10 rebouinds!1!@!
     

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