I just think that with Trevor and Shane as redundant wings, we need contrast. Starting Chase makes the offense better, and weakens the D a little, but the benefit of more Chase and less Battriza would far outweigh a slightly weaker defensive starting 5. Honestly, I wish we had Von too....if we would have signed him for $2 million and never signed Ariza we would have had $14 million to play with this offseason instead of only $7..... I think this is Morey's first big mistake...and it is a doozy ! DD
WOW! I know you like to jump the gun but WOW. Signing this guy to the MLE was not a mistake and boy if you really think that way, sure glad you are not the GM. You do realize that he could have signed for same if not more money with the Lakers and Cavs. Both wanted him. Yes, Lakers wanted him back but for the right price. And in 20/20 hindsight you even want to tell this group here that it would be better to NOT use the MLE to sign someone (Ariza or someone of that level) and just sit on it? (Von wanted more than he's worth so he got shutout of the NBA, for crying out loud) Boy, knowing full well the team was going in without 2 major players and that Artest, in his crazy ways, wanted a boat load of money (way more then MLE) to be back with the Rockets (sure glad he didn't get it). Sure of the same deal with Ariza and the Lakers. That is really jumping off the deep end. The Rockets had to sign someone and if Morey thinks Ariza is worth the MLE and he is playing, I think he deserves just a little more than 1/2 season from you to call his move a Major BUST. But you can say whatever you want becuase you are DD and you are always right
Why Verb? Why did they HAVE to sign someone when they knew Yao was going to be out? I am not always right, but I am glad you feel that way...hehe.... I just don't think Trevor is a good basketball player, anyone that can not dribble the ball effectively, IMO, will not be all that successful....I mean his fundamentals flat out stink. I think the Lakers were making noise, they never really wanted him back or they would have tried harder.....sort of the same move Morey made with Artest....a face saving move but not a real one. The problem I have with Trevor is the length of his deal....5 years......if the Cavs want him, then by all means trade the guy to the Cavs for Big Z.....let's get our cap room back. DD
You must be kidding with this too right? At the time of the signing, who knew Chase was going to be able to play? Did you? He didn't drop to the 44th pick because he was "ready to play in the NBA" from day one. Chase is looking like her is ready now but if this was a know factor would be be availble for Rockets to pickup? DM lucked into this one, I guess. But when FA started Chase was not in the rotation picture. Then needed a starting Wing, they were going to sign one. If not Ariza then who? You got a name? Please do not say Von becuase even you would not consider him a starting wing in the NBA. Yes, you don't thing Ariza is either but that's your current thinking.
No clearly not, I wanted Von back because I didn't believe in Taylor or Cbud being able to contribute. But, if the team knew Yao was out (and we did not BTW) then they should have adjusted their plan accordingly, and done more research on Trevor and seen that he lacks the skills necessary to be anything more than a 5th wheel on the floor at best. Morey should have done everything he could to protect his cap space for this offseason, and by signing Von to a one year $2 million dollar deal, they would have been better this season and had $14 million in cap space with Tmac expiring. A much better spot to be in, if you ask me. How about this trade though: Trevor Cook Dorsey for Big Z Cleveland gets Trevor who fits into their style of play with Lebron and we get an expiring center and midrange shooting big guy for this season. Win win, imo. DD
Ariza will prove him wrong and he'll look stupid, back track, and make up some garbage about how that isn't really what he meant. He said none of our most recent draft picks would contribute, and he said Ron Artest wasn't a good defender anymore when Artest left for LA. He's a certified looney tune that back tracks to cover for his disgustingly awful prognostications.
You know what, I think you are right, it is time for a Rocket's talk video, maybe tomorrow or later today....need to think about what I would like to build the show around. I don't like to do them with nothing to say...... DD
I do not think Von would have been willing to sign for 2 million. Morey had a number that he was willing to sign him at and 2 million certainly would have been low enough. I would rather start Ariza over Battier based on his athleticism. Battier seems completely useless on offense, even though he shoots a higher percentage. I don't think we can grade the Ariza signing until at least after the trade deadline. We don't know how much cap room Morey will have. If he trades for longer contracts then we won't have any room, anyway, making the Ariza contract have no effect on next year's cap room.
Why would they give up shaq's insurance a for guys they have similar to trevor in parker and moon? Everyone knew yao would be out this year and morey decided to build the team for 2011. Me personally, i've said many times i would have just played young guys. I wouldn't have traded and signed a 30 yr old center and kept a declining has been sf who cant dribble or shoot off the bounce as you say. This is their bed and obvious they like it despite trevor's struggles. I think having chase start as i suggested a long time ago would push trevor down the line in terms of scoring which is where he's better suited.
If the Rockets did NOTHING even after going all out for the emergency MLE (for Yao's lost season), they you KNOW the team is tanking. Some here thinks that is great (John Wall, John Wall), but as a team, they can't. They still need to take care of this season's fans. It's one think to try and fail but to fail on purpose, would be unacceptable. (unless you are a Spurs fan and TD was the ultimate prize). Trevor's deal is not bad, he can play, he cannot be a go-to guy but how many are out there? AB is barely a go to guy. No, CL is not, no-one in the post is a go to guy now because they don't have the ball in their hands, with the defenses allowed these days, even The Dream would have a problem being the go-to guy. Double teams will do that to you. That's why with Yao back, Ariza will be better. No, Yao is not a go to guy but when he touches the ball, it a double team or it's 2 for Yao (most of the time). But with double team on Yao, there will be a hole somewhere and with ball movement, Ariza will have better looks and lanes to the basket. He can do that pretty well. Has in the pass, can to it again also. He is what he is, a very good role player, trying out to be a go-to guy and not making the grade.
I have just seen enough to know that he is not a good fit, I would rather have players that can dribble the ball and have decent fundamentals than a guy who needs Lebron/Kobe on his team to make him effective. There are just not that many superstar players to play off of.....honestly, I believe Morey blew it on this one. DD
The problem with this line of thinking is the belief that Yao will be back. There is no guarantee he will be back, or even close to as effective as he once was. The only one with his surgery that came back was Big Z, and he got like 20mpg his first year back. If Yao comes back at 20mpg, he is nothing but a glorified role player, and Trevor would still be struggling because we have no superstar for him to play off of. I understand Morey is making moves in hopes of getting a superstar player, but it is a house of cards if he does not acquire one. Trevor is what he is, a flawed basketball player, who is vastly overpaid for his contributions on the floor. We got burned. Uh....if the thread is about Trevor etc, then I am going to talk about the subject matter of the thread. This one is about Chase, and whether he should start......hopefully over Trevor or Shane...apparently 80+% of people agree it is time for a change. Glad to see Clutchfans are still the best basketball minds on the planet. Ugh...2 wrongs do not make a right. DD
Did you ever hate a play more than Ariza right now? He deserves a little "dislike" but man there is venom in your remarks. Did he personal piss you off or something. I am not a Ariza fan BTW. DM is doing the best he can with what's available. He is not perfect but I don't think the Ariza signing is a mistake. Not signing someone in the summer would be a mistake. (Von is not that someone and that's my opinion - I like the guy but he priced himself out of the market) Signing Artest back for big money would be a mistake. And Yao will be back. Count on it. Probably better than ever. He is also going to be lighter and may even jump a little. How do I know this? I don't and I am not a Yao only fan either. I go by track record and his is very good. He is all about the team and will do right by them. You can't use Big Z's track record becuase that was a long time ago and medicine has come a long way.
No, but I expect an NBA basketball player to be able to dribble a ball..... I love DM as GM, but if you are going to be top dog, then you have to take the heat when you make a mistake.....I think Ariza was a big one... Disagree, they did not have to sign anyone, they could have signed Von, or someone else like McCants for a cheaper deal...signing Trevor was a complete panic move after losing Artest, and honestly while I understood the Artest trade, I never wanted that guy to begin with......and if Donte Greene keeps improving, well...... I hope you are right, I really like the big guy, but Big Z is all we have to go on.....and Yao is bigger, and heavier than him. I don't see them playing Yao big minutes next season.......do you? DD
If we signed Von, our rotation would be something like this: Starters: Brooks Budinger Battier Scola Hayes with Wafer, Lowry and Landry coming off the bench. Wafer is a bigger scoring punch than Budinger so our bench would be even more deadlier than it is now, and our starting lineup would become a lot more efficient.
