1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Is it time to start Chase?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Jan 23, 2010.

?

Is it time to start Chase ?

  1. Yes

    429 vote(s)
    84.0%
  2. No

    82 vote(s)
    16.0%
  1. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    113,912
    Likes Received:
    175,272
    Not high on Chase?! :eek:
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,132
    Adelman is starting Ariza therefore the answer is NO.
     
  3. logicx

    logicx Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    760
    Likes Received:
    15
    All that's left is for Trevor to go up for a dunk, get hung on the rim, and then announce that he's having season ending knee-surgery...
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,551
    Likes Received:
    38,775
    Not high on Chase? Really?

    He has been really good this year, inconsistent, sure, but as a 21 year old rookie he has been great.

    And his skills are very high up there, he is already a better offensive wing than Trevor or Shane.

    Heck he is the best offensive wing on the team......and that says a lot.

    DD
     
  5. cheke64

    cheke64 Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2009
    Messages:
    25,752
    Likes Received:
    17,667

    That makes me want to smash my computer.Seriously dude, you think battier can hold kobe?
     
  6. choujie

    choujie Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2002
    Messages:
    7,389
    Likes Received:
    77
    1-6 doesn't tell the whole story. Rockets didn't lose ground when Lowry was running the show. He does other things like drawing charges, getting tough rebounds, move the ball around quickly to help Rockets, and he did a much better job defending Heinrich than Brooks, stopped him from penetration.

    The thing about staring Chase right now is I don't know if he can create offense if he is asked to do so. He seems to be a catch and shoot guy, a guy who knows how to get open, a guy who feeds off other players, not the type of draw defense and create guy.

    Chase deserve more time to try those things, or develop those things. But I don't know if he's ready to take Ariza's role as 2nd creator.
     
  7. leebigez

    leebigez Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    15,771
    Likes Received:
    757

    So one minute u applaud and talk about the greatness of rick and morey and the next u accuse them of staying true to a promise? Do you honestly think adelman made trevor a promise?
     
  8. durvasa

    durvasa Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Messages:
    38,892
    Likes Received:
    16,449
    The starting lineup is going to change, one way or another, within the next month. Either a rotation change, or due to a trade.

    Adelman will probably stick with Ariza and Batter for some more games, and gradually ramp up Budinger's minutes. If the team loses a bunch of home games, I could see Battier getting knocked off and Budinger to replace him.

    Battier is the first guy subbed out anyway, so that would be the least disruptive change. I think Adelman likes the energy that he gets from Lowry, Landry, and Budinger though. Its like an extra boost he can count on each game. He may not want to break that up.
     
  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,551
    Likes Received:
    38,775
    I do think Rick and DM are great, but that does not mean I agree with everything they do.

    As for the promise, I don't know.....and I certainly hope not.....

    But the wussies bit is in the lack of holding Trevor accountable for sucking.....

    The dude is flat out terrible right now, and this year has been awful....he needs a lot more pine....

    The Lakers knew exactly what they were doing when they let him walk....

    DD
     
  10. leebigez

    leebigez Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    15,771
    Likes Received:
    757
    I guess your tv worked too right. No one else saw this i guess.
     
  11. logicx

    logicx Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    760
    Likes Received:
    15
    1st of all, Ariza should not be classified as creator. At all. Not for himself, not for others, he and create shouldn't be allowed to be used together at all...

    Second, Chase had 3 assists tonight...he's got good court-vision IMO and he passes the ball well and CAN create off the pass...haven't yet seen if he can create a shot for himself consistently.

    I really dno't have any worries about Chase on the offensive end compared to Ariza at all...more just on the defensive end with his consistency or lack thereof.
     
  12. leebigez

    leebigez Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    15,771
    Likes Received:
    757

    If you think adelman would ever operate that way, well i don't know what to say. Early in the season i said gay was better than both our starters and you said no way. Care to rethink your ever changing opinion?
     
  13. Pete Chilcutt

    Pete Chilcutt Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2009
    Messages:
    5,535
    Likes Received:
    280
    I think Battier should still start and Ariza should come off the bench.

    Maybe he will have more confidence coming in with Landry and Lowry, I think its a mind set, kind of like with Manu in the past.

    Start Shane sit Ariza
     
  14. Ramathorn006

    Ramathorn006 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2009
    Messages:
    2,725
    Likes Received:
    164
    I voted no to start chase, but if were were to start him i would move shane to the bench, ariza to SF, and buddinger to SG.

    But if we get Iggy...

    Buddinger goes back to the bench and Iggy starts.
     
  15. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,551
    Likes Received:
    38,775
    You really need to link posts, because you make stuff up all the time....

    I would take Gay over Ariza every day of the week and would have before the season too.

    It is on Shane's value we disagree......

    DD
     
  16. choujie

    choujie Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2002
    Messages:
    7,389
    Likes Received:
    77
    Chase's assists are different from Ariza's. It's more like Chuc kHaye's assists to find open teammates without dribble, or in transition.

    Ariza is not a creator you would like to have as a 2nd option, I agree. But he's better than Battier, Hayes etc, and possibly Chase too, at this moment.

    We need to see more. I guess RA knows more in practice.
     
  17. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,551
    Likes Received:
    38,775
    OMG, no he is not ...he is a terrible passer......most of his passes are behind their targets....

    He gets some assists in the offense but Chase is soooooo far ahead of Trevor in this regard it is not even funny.

    DD
     
  18. leebigez

    leebigez Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    15,771
    Likes Received:
    757

    You didn't say that? I said earlier gay was better than both and you said no.
     
  19. logicx

    logicx Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    760
    Likes Received:
    15
    I don't know, I agree partially, but I've seen Chase go to the basket and find his teammates...I've seen him draw defenders and pass out to someone without looking, I definitely think he can do it and better than Ariza could ever dream he could because when Ariza dribbles fast towards defenders (more than 1), he typically loses the ball...or fumbles around with it and recovers it, etc...
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,551
    Likes Received:
    38,775
    No.

    Link please !

    DD
     

Share This Page