Is is hypocritical for Palin/Beck to hold a rally at Lincoln Park on Aug 28th?

indeed.

 

I see your point.

 

Why the hell is beck hijacking King's values and acting like they have something in common?

One is a discriminatory bigot and the other fought for civil rights. Not too much in common there.

And LOL at basso posting like two black people, lets see what the majority of the people were.

This is honestly disgusting.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_dc_rally

Hmm kinda odd that the majority of the people were white, I guess the people Dr King fought for show no respect for him

 

Throughout his career in Top 40 radio, Beck was known for his imitations of “black guy” characters and racist tropes. According to Beck’s former colleagues in the late 90s, this included mocking unarmed blacks shot and killed by white police officers.

http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/147951

Repugs, conservatives, right-wingers are fundamentally racist, and race warriors.

"no/small govt" and "anti-entitlement" strategies are euphemistic fog words for "anti-slavery-reparations".

The class war is both wealthy class vs non-wealthy class and white class vs non-white class. Same warriors and same targets in both wars.

Throw in the "Christian" fundamentalist/evangelist supremacists Christian class vs non-Christian class (BecKKK is a clinically ill egomaniac addictive ******* with a Messiah complex), and you have the complete recipe for the Repug/conservative hate stew.

 

Her family probably went so they would end up in the spotlight.......

 

You are an outrageous poster. Your posts are insulting and inflammatory. You offer nothing to the discussions and people like you only contribute to further growth in the divide between normal Americans who fall just to the left or just to the right of the political spectrum. Bravo for being an inflammatory jerk. My first ignore list member.

 

I've been a Democrat almost my entire life, and even I think that's absurd.

As far as the crack about reparations, to suggest that anyone who opposes them should be lumped in with racist is equally absurd.

Step back from the ledge, because you're in danger of falling into the abyss of extremist thought, where everyone is either completely with you or completely against you.

Isn't that one of the biggest criticisms of the Bush administration, that he and his cronies paint everything in overly simplistic terms? Don't become what you hate.

Life and politics is too complex to think like that.

 

more diversity than you see here.

 

Funny because I thought MLK's dream was for a unified America where its citizens had character, honor and pride.

 

An interesting take on BECk and MLK from the left.
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Thank You, Glenn Beck!

By ALEXANDER COCKBURN

This weekend brings us the August 28 anniversary of the March on Washington back in 1963. It was when Martin Luther King delivered his famous “I have a dream” speech from the Lincoln Memorial. At least 250,000 people, 75-80 per cent black, rallied in the Mall. Each year the anniversary rolls around, you’ll hear plenty of high-flown strophes from prominent progressives, black and white, evoking Dr. King’s dream of racial justice and equality. Barack Obama’s speechwriters are, no doubt, polishing just such a commentary by their boss.

In terms of political energy, the event is as inert as Labor Day, itself just around the corner at the start of September.

But this year brings welcome relief from such pietism. The premier anniversary celebration of the March has been hijacked by the right-wing commentator, Glenn Beck. The prime speaker will be Sarah Palin, the Tea Party’s pinup girl and as unlikely as any woman in Alaska ever to have had a pinup of MLK on her dorm wall. To have the March on Washington honored by Beck and Palin is as shocking to liberal America as installing Jefferson Davis, president of the Southern slave states in the Civil War, next to Lincoln in the Memorial – an insertion which will no doubt be approved by Congress, and endorsed by Obama in the interests of bipartisanship, just as soon as the 14th Amendment is repealed.

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Beck claims the ideas of Dr. King have been corrupted and that he will resurrect the true King. As part of this mission, Beck is trying to separate Dr. King from social justice and limit King to advocacy of individual Christian salvation. ...

From the left comes the angry response that King was, indeed, committed to the need to redistribute wealth in order to advance a juster nation and was assassinated in Memphis, Tennessee, in 1968, in the course of a visit to black city workers on strike.

If Beck’s hijacking provokes some honesty among the left in general about King and about black leadership today, then Beck will have performed a useful service. Too late now to organize the obvious, a huge counter demonstration to call Beck to accounts and run him and Palin off. ...

The March of 1963 was actually called the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom. It wasn’t King’s idea, but that of A. Philip Randolph who had planned a similar march in 1941. King’s Southern Christian Leadership Conference was only one of five main sponsoring groups. Some of these saw the march’s purpose as not high-flown talk about dreams but as harsh reproof of President John Kennedy. They accused him dragging his feet on giving legislative heft to the civil rights movement that has moved into high gear three years earlier. John Lewis’s speech denouncing Kennedy’s weakness was famously censored by the March’s organizers.

King’s political career was heading into crisis. Three years later, in 1967, he was booed by blacks at a rally in Chicago. He recalled later what he thought that night: ”I had preached to them about my dream. I had lectured to them about the not-too-distant day when they would have freedom ‘all, here and now.’ I had urged them to have faith in America and in white society. Their hopes had soared. They were now booing because they had felt we were unable to deliver on our promises…. They were now hostile because they were watching the dream they had so readily accepted turn into a nightmare.”

It was one thing to force a chain restaurant in Greensboro, North Carolina, to allow blacks sit at a previously Whites Only counter; it was quite another to attack the racism embedded in the American system so savagely excoriated by the greatest American black revolutionary of the 1960s, Malcolm X, who was assassinated in 1965.

Beck, to a certain extent, has it right. In 1963 King was on the same tack as another man professing confidence in the American system to engender justice out of an innate, individually virtuous moral tropism to do the right thing -- Barack Obama in 2008. King was wrong then, just like Obama is two generations later. It’s a matter of class war, not individual character traits.


King moved to the left in the mid-60s. He had to. In Riverside Church in New York, a year before his death he gave a far more powerful speech than 1963’s “I have a dream” address. He called the U.S. government “the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today… A true revolution of values will soon look uneasily on the glaring contrast of poverty and wealth. …[T]rue compassion is more than flinging a coin to a beggar... it comes to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring.”
This was a far cry from what White Power wanted from King, which was the soft rhetorical pillow on which all Dreamers could lay their heads: MLK’s 1963 dream that “we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood.”

On August 28, 2010,, forty-seven years after the March for Jobs and Freedom, America has plunged into the vortex of long-term mass unemployment. No jobs, particularly for young blacks.
So much for jobs. What about freedom?

Thirty years ago, fewer than 350,000 people were held in prisons and jails in the United States. Today, the number of prisoners in the United States exceeds 2,000,000. The U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics concludes that the chance of a black male born in 2001 of going to jail is 32 per cent, or 1 in three. Black boys are five times as likely as white boys to go to jail. Former prisoners are permanently relocated on society’s margins, these days some 5 million of them, denied the right to vote in most states.

Professor Michelle Alexander, in her book The New Jim Crow argues convincingly that we have a purposeful system of mass incarceration, with blacks as the prime victims.

Today, in this fearful crisis there is no effective black leadership, starting with President Obama who has marvelously has fulfilled his function as political sedater of black aspirations, starting with the promotion of his own success story. “Yes, we can.” Oh, no they can’t. It’s not in the Master Plan. Black politicians are well aware that most of their black constituents will stay with Obama till the end, whatever he does. So most of them remain quiet – and yield the stage to an opportunist like Beck, flanked by Ms. Palin. Malcom X, who called the 1963 March on Washington “a picnic” and “a circus,” would have had a good laugh about that.

http://counterpunch.org/

 

Its a good piece and this controversy might actually help improve understanding about MLK beyond the platitudes of what most people think about him.

 

so did anyone go to the KKK rally?

 

Yeah... enjoyed your message! I thought you hadn't planned on removing your hood? You look a lot like Dave Chapelle...

 

We're not racist, we have black friends

 

I've seen more at Lady Ga Ga concerts and they actually have to pay.

 

Apparently there's a big discrepancy on the exact count of attendees.

CBS News reported 87,000 attendees.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upsho...lenn-beck-rally-sparks-debate-over-crowd-size

80-100k is a far cry from the 300k-500k being reported on a number of tv stations and news outlets.

 

duhhhhh that's a lot of people duhhhhh fun stuffs must be happening

 

Regardless of the numbers the event was inconsequential because it was boring.
Nothing of note was said or done, nothing new was proposed.

 

What are you talking about?!?!? I feel all tea baggie about my god and country.

Don’t you?