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Is is hypocritical for Palin/Beck to hold a rally at Lincoln Park on Aug 28th?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Aug 22, 2010.

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Is Palin / Beck hypocrites over the mosque?

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  2. No

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  1. Steve_Francis_rules

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    He didn't explicitly say that he wanted to silence these two people. He said that these two people, using their own standards as expressed when the Islamic center controversy started, should want to keep themselves silent if it will offend some people.
     
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    Under that logic everybody should be silent about everything that might offend or provide the basis of disagreement. The D&D is finished, admins.
     
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    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    I am just asking for consistency. If they are going saying "please don't excercise your rights because it might be hurtful to 9/11 victims" then why don't they apply the same logic to themselves and not hurt blacks by pissing all over MLK's memory and making a mockery of the civil rights movement?

    Where have I said they should be silent? Racists have every right to say what they want, and I have every right to critique them in response.

    You guys want it both ways. You want to be able to spew everything they want but yet feel that Muslims and minorities should do what the majority wants.

    I have news for you, the 1st and 2nd Amendment were not even created to protect the majority - it was done to protect the MINORITY!
     
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    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    Yes, because asking for consistency means you can put forth all the double standards you love.
     
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    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    So you agree that Palin and Beck speaking on MLK's anniversary at Lincoln center is incredibly insensitive and they should consider moving the date and location?

    Is that your stance?
     
  6. Refman

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    Read the remainder his his rhetoric from the thread. His feelings on this are pretty clear...up to and including referring to the speaking engagement as a "march on Lincoln Park."

    Please.
     
  7. Refman

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    Enjoy lobbing those stones from your glass house.
     
  8. finalsbound

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    meh, i just think it's funny when conservatives think they even have a tiny chance of winning over the black vote.

    Totally Enraged About Blacks And Gays Getting Equal Rights
     
  9. tallanvor

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    Why is it insensitive? Beck/Palin approve of MLK and the rally will be used to honor his teachings.
     
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    Absolutely not. I do not know what Palin's role is, but Beck has been praising and promoting MLK and his speech, the role of blacks in American history, how slavery evolved from indentured servitude, who made slavery "socially acceptable" in the 1700-1800s and who perpetuated second class citizenship for blacks in the early to mid-twentieth century.
     
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    And the Muslims who want to build this mosque have condemned terrorism and say they are true Americans and they too feel the pain of 9/11.

    So why is it ok for Beck and Palin to do their thing and yet wrong for Muslims to do there's?

    I still see you trying to rationalize your duplicity.
     
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    The builders of the mosque agree that 9/11 was a terrible terrorist attack and stand with all Americans in standing up against it. They are seeking peace and seek to fight extremism.

    Why is it insensitive then?

    Why is there a double standard here?
     
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    Whatever, I am just asking from consistency from those bone-headed idiots Palin and Beck.

    If you can't see how their activity is insensitive, maybe you should talk to blacks on how they feel about it before you claim it's ok.

    I will say you are a blind man if you don't think this is entirely insensitive to most blacks.
     
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    This is Beck at his idiotic insensitive to Blacks finest.

    THe best part is when someone says, "Kofi Annan, he's not black, so where is he from...somewhere in Africa...so he's not African American, right!"

    http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201001070024
     
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    Because the attacks where carried out in the name of Islam (even if they didn't understand the religion). Because 3,000 people where murdered in the name of Allah, the Islamic God. You may think this is meaningless, but to most Americans and New Yorkers it is not (as every poll shows). It's like if someone committed a murder in your name while screaming "Praise to Sweet Lou", even if you didn't condone the murder would you build a statue of yourself next to the victim's house?
     
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    I live in New York and I used to work at the Trade Center and knew many people so please don't tell me jack.

    Many whites commited murder against blacks in the name of righteousness.

    So by your own logic, you are suggesting the Beck and Palin should not be having their little ho-down on MLK's anniversary and location, no?

    Why can't you just freaking be consistent?
     
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    I never said whether I thought it was ok or not.

    Your starting of this thread and your subsequent comments are a very thinly veiled attempt to express that you believe that they should not be allowed to speak at the Park. This is because you disagree with them, plain and simple. You are all for freedom of speech...until you disagree with said speech.
     
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    He views African-American as a ancestral term and not a race. Why is that racist?

    The guy talks in public to the nation for almost 4 hours a day and has for years. That's your proof he is racist?
     
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    just one example. dude is clearly a racist. Majority of blacks agree and are extremely offended by him pissing on the memory of MLK.

    I love it how it's ok for Beck to piss of blacks intentionally, but if some moderate muslims try to build a community center as a statement against religious intolerance (to radical muslims no less ironically), then that's wrong by your standard.
     

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