1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Is Houston a "blue collar" town?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Apps, Jan 8, 2014.

  1. Apps

    Apps Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2008
    Messages:
    2,137
    Likes Received:
    135
    Or a white collar one?

    Why does it seem that Midwestern/Northern cities are the only ones to get the designation of "blue collar" (e.g. Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, etc.)? I understand that those cities were historically industrial centers, but then you get a city like Los Angeles, which happens to be the biggest manufacturing center in the nation and also has the nation's biggest port, which would never be considered a "blue collar" town (mostly because of the 'Hollywood' stereotype, I guess).

    So what is Houston? And what is a "blue collar" town? Is it just a term that happens to apply to every town that used to be nice but now is $h1t?
     
  2. tallanvor

    tallanvor Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2007
    Messages:
    17,052
    Likes Received:
    8,760
    oil town. oil industry is blue and white collar
     
  3. Dairy Ashford

    Dairy Ashford Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    14,504
    Likes Received:
    1,831
    I grew up east of 45 and live and have worked west of it, there's a clear demarcation in the types of jobs, people and local amenities to identify a sizable blue collar portion. In Baytown it seemed extremely difficult for anyone to visualize working anywhere other than the plant, and the smart kids would either want to be engineers, nurses or just leave the state altogether. Until maybe gas futures, merchant energy and the insane I-banking presence that brought 20 - 25 years ago, it seems like most of the cash came through the racks, rails and the port; whereas downtown was just for admin/accounting, design talent and bank loans. I don't think anyone in Dayton or Mont Belview carps about Austin being hipper than Houston or vice versa.
     
  4. Dairy Ashford

    Dairy Ashford Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    14,504
    Likes Received:
    1,831
    Incidentally all major cities have a blue collar portion, but when they're mostly black and immigrant it's called a ghetto.
     
  5. Shroopy2

    Shroopy2 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2003
    Messages:
    15,915
    Likes Received:
    1,598
    Would figure it means cities where the PREDOMINANT occupation is industrial related AND the people derive their identity and "hard work" attitude from it. Los Angeles needs its manufacturing for sure, but without manufacturing it'd still have plenty other industries to get identity from.

    Detroit is obvious example of depending on manufacturing and it influencing attitudes, definite blue collar. New York and Boston have "tough" labels, but its not from an industrial base.

    And yeah, it seems to describe larger cities that have lots of poorer people in it
     
  6. s land balla

    s land balla Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2001
    Messages:
    6,608
    Likes Received:
    365
    No, Baltimore is.
     
  7. Raven

    Raven Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2002
    Messages:
    14,984
    Likes Received:
    1,024
    Blue collar usually suggested unionized working class, such as auto manufacturing, but the war on organized labor is driving that way of life into extinction. Houston still has the ship channel, still has some of that base, but there's less of it every year. Don't make the mistake of calling minimum wage employees working class. They aren't. They're simply poor. Working class implied physical labor, but with just enough pay to have an acceptable life. McDonald's employees work their ass off, but have no chance at a decent life because they are underpaid. Sorry if my reply is too political for hangout, but it's important the phrase be used correctly, otherwise it gets co-opted by the 1% and used as propaganda.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_in_the_usa#Image_and_social_issues
     
  8. Master Baiter

    Master Baiter Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2001
    Messages:
    9,608
    Likes Received:
    1,374
    I lived in St Louis for a short time and always tell people that there are white collar towns and blue collar towns but St Louis is wife beater. What a complete ****hole that town is.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now