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Is Homework Really Necessary?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Shroopy2, Aug 23, 2008.

  1. Mr. Brightside

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    If you don't do homework in middle school, you aren't going to do it in high school, and then you won't be prepared for college. Then you are pretty much screwed in life unless you want to work a minimally paid job for the rest of your life.
     
  2. pmac

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    I tell you what i did. Right down as much as you can.

    Learn your own abbreviations and come back later and organize it that way you haven't missed much. I was always bad at that too. Luckily, i went to a big college that the professors all had powerpoint slideshows.
     
  3. Rocket River

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    If they were not doing homework . .. what would they be doing?
    X-box/playstation
    MTV
    or something of similar value

    I did my homework in HOME ROOM
    rarely opened my books when i was home

    good study habits are a lifetime of good
    I didn't have them . . and struggled later on

    people talk about failing education
    then they want to come in and CUT educational activity
    Incompatible *****
    I want my kid to get the best education . . .you get them into the best school then complain about the homework???? the method??? Are you serious?

    I want a disciplined child. . but i don't want him disciplined??

    Rocket River
     
  4. plutoblue11

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    My experience was probably opposite of this. All of the work and long-winded assignments were in high school, surprisingly not college and it's well-known college, too.

    I think the most big papers or assignments I ever did in college class never totaled anymore than 2. But I can think of, at least 4 classes in high school where I had 3 to 5 big papers and 2 major projects in one semester.

    I know this is stretch for some people, but I can honestly say I think most of college was easier than high school. In college, they don't hold your hand and most of the homework is usually just reading and taking notes. None of that turn in your homework b.s. Teachers know everything you don't learn or skip may come back to bite you on a test or exam. While, others just figure you'll cram or get stuff other people. And, generally, they don't give ****...I mostly love that.
     
  5. FlyerFanatic

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    homework is important...i dont think it would be fair to teachers in grade schools if they were told no more homework. when you break it down...teachers dont have their kids in class enough as it is to teach them the subject. so homework can help them get that extra time with stuff.

    agree with someone else though, teachers need to limit how much. i have had a few professors at my uni...the way it looks again this semester, who seem to think students are only taking their course only or something, so much work. grade school especially, you can give homework...besides most of the time its not "home"work. most students take a study hall of some sort, get most of their work done in there.
     
  6. Mr. Brightside

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    I'm also not an auditory person. I can't pay attention to a lecture for the life of me. But I realized that I didn't even need to pay attention in class or even attend class for that matter. That is what the textbook is for. Before the exam the professor should give you a list of things to focus on. Just study the book and the focus list and I promise you will pass any class.
     
  7. FlyerFanatic

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    ehhh..that doesnt work all the time. it depends what the professor likes to pull from. i dont think i've had a professor hand out a focus sheet, they might tell you in class a couple days before a test what to look at..but some teachers are all about making up test from their own notes they taught in class.
     
  8. Shaud

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    Thanks will do, and also I need to start taking a tape recorder. Another problem I have with his lectures is I start taking notes and then he gets off the subject. Now he has lost my attention and I'm lost when he starts back on topic.
     
  9. Supermac34

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    I did almost no homework in middle school and high school. Other than projects, anything assigned I was almost always able to finish up in school during free time.

    In college, the need to actually do homework was a bit of a shock, but it wasn't a big deal. Usually 30 minutes or an hour a day was enough, then cram for the big test for a few hours. I can imagine engineering or math majors having a lot more homework as well.

    My sister in law teaches elementary in a public school. The district she teaches now has "mixed" classes. They don't seperate out the more advanced kids at all, so she said she HAS to give homework, because during the day she can pretty much only teach to the lowest common denominators in class and to challenge her good students she has to give homework.
     
  10. Shaud

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    This teacher was just plain out weird. It was a guy sitting behind me who said he read all the chapters that the syllabus said but he said that what was in the book wasn't in the test.

    Also the teacher told us he would put notes online. So every Chapter I would go online for the notes but instead of actually putting notes he would just put a persons name but he wouldn't elaborate about the person.

    Example to what I mean.

    Barack Obama-
    John McCain-
    Bill Clinton-
    George Bush-

    He would put the name but gave us no info at all.
     
  11. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I don't believe in homework for non college level classes. Never did, never will. If schools can't teach what they need to teach in the 7+ hours a day they spend at school, then the teachers aren't doing their job.
     
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    i went to lanier middle school and was in the vanguard program and we had too much homework...i would always do it too but i decided to breeze through high school and not do any homework, just do good on tests and it worked until i reached college...i'm just not used to doing homework anymore and this has kept me from A's...i kick ass on exams and finals but those damn homework grades always bring me down
     
  13. pmac

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    don't do the tape recorder. Trust me. The benefit of taking notes is that its like studying twice. When you write the stuff down it stays in your subconscious so when you go back and study you can key in on the important stuff. Just think about how much HW you did in HS and just replace that with study time. I had the same problem with college. You probably thought just cause they didn't hover over you and make sure you read every chapter that it wasn't important. Then the test came.
     
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    pshhh...wow. you understand teachers only have their students for like 40-45 minutes each day right? to sit there and say the teachers arent doing their jobs when they require homework is ridiculous.

    i love when people complain about teachers, you want education to be better, raise teachers salaries to engineers salaries...thats how you'll flood better teachers into the system.
     
  15. Mr. Brightside

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    But how can you reinforce any subject without homework or some actual practice work? Students need alot of homework and alot of practice problems in order to master any subject.
     
  16. Isabel

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    A little bit of homework is good for self discipline. I think there should always be some of it - but it should require some thought process (not just copying stuff) and some of the more advanced schools should take it easy on the special projects. I remember some ridiculous ones from middle school. For instance, why design and build a board game based on a book instead of doing a regular report on the book to prove you read it? However, I suspect there is a huge difference between the fast-track schools (private schools, honors programs, wealthy suburbs) and most everybody else, where there's probably the opposite problem.

    One thing I don't like is how some schools are keeping textbooks in the classrooms only and not issuing them to kids to take home. Not easy to build good study habits if you don't have anything to study from. Also, those who are behind can't go home and spend more time with it, though it would help.

    In college - trust me, we (college instructors) would be more than happy not to have to grade homework, which is why we sometimes don't assign it. Adults should be able to study on their own, is the conventional wisdom. In my teaching, I do assign it but usually either don't take it up or just "spot grade" it for completion; however, they know it's important for practice because their test problems will be along the same lines. Part of the college thing is being able to hang in there for a month between tests without getting behind... showing that you can take charge of your own learning.
     
  17. Mr. Brightside

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    When I was in college a few years ago, alot of my classes had online homework. Thus when I submitted an assignment, it would be online, and it would generate a score right away. This is how it was in some of my introductory chemistry classes from what I remember.
     
  18. Isabel

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    My most recent supervising professor has been doing this. (also chemistry) I chose not to because the first group of students I tried it with voted against it, said there had been a lot of technical difficulties with the system. I thought about it - how hard it would be to decide what to do with their grade every time someone claimed to have had "trouble with the computer". Also, I was too lazy to want to learn how to work the program myself. :) However, if everyone had wanted it, I would have.

    On the other hand, I took an economics class that had the homework and book online, and it was easy and worked really well. It depends on the system. My fiance took online algebra and, even though the problems themselves weren't hard, it took all day using Equation Editor to get everything in the exact steps they wanted for the answers. A paper and pencil would have been much faster. So... online stuff can work really well, as long as it's not more trouble than it's worth.
     
  19. BetterThanI

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    Spoken like someone who never taught a class a day in their life. Stand in front of a room full of 30 of uninterested (and possibly armed) 16-years-olds who can't wait for class to end so they can go play XBox/get high/have sex, and try to get them to remember the pythagorean theorem. Then come talk to me about what kind of job schools are doing.

    As a teacher, I agree that the question of homework is a tricky one. On the one hand, five hours of extra work is pretty awful (incidentally, I seriously doubt that the students are given five hours of homework every night, if for no other reason that the fact that a teacher doesn't have time to grade five hours of homework per student every day). On the other hand, giving students no homework at all would not reinforce the concept which is being taught, and would lead to a LOT of reteaching. I think the key here is the word "excessive". Giving the student homework is fine. Giving them 10 pages per day is ridiculous.
     
  20. JD2010

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    Spoken like a true teacher.
    What you said is true, I'm in High School.
    I try to have fun but at the same time do my work and I think homework sucks but it makes me responsible when I consistently turn it in.

    Oh and btw

    a^2 + b^2 = c^2 ;)
     

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