Some people seem to have lost their objectivity. That's Chuck !#$!$!@ Hayes we're talking about. NO OTHER TEAM IN THE NBA WANTED HIM IN THE OFF SEASON. A premiere defensive PF at 6'6"? Please. I guess we're a lot smarter than 29 GMs in the league. Somehow this premiere defender wasn't able to convince any of the 29 GMs in the league to pay him cheaply for (Ben Wallace - Dennis Rodman)esque service. Please, let's get real. Another poster hit the nail on the head. We've been so terrible at PF for so long, that even Chuck Hayes looks good to us.
I think when we acquired Scola, it was expected that Scola would take over the starting job at some point of the season. This is pretty much how it turned out. What was unexpected was the emergence of Landry. Few people thought Landry could be this good this fast. I think Hayes is still an asset to the team. But the days for him to be a regular rotation guy are over.
I am a big Chuck Hayes fan but believe he is going to have to "start over" with his shot. I know it has to be hard reinventing your shot after doing it the same way your whole life but the only way i can see him having a long career is for him to develope a jump shot from 15 feet in.
I really don't want to dwell on semantic arguments. I'm saying that this argument: The object of the game is to outscore your opponent, and therefore offense is more important than defense. is seriously flawed. If poprocks actually meant something else, as you say, than nevermind.
Did you actually watch those games? Boozer was guarded primarily by Yao because JVG didn't want Yao defending Okur on the perimeter. I think everyone was and is in agreement that Boozer probably wouldn't have had such a dominant series if he had been defended by Hayes. The problem was that there was no one on the Jazz that Yao could guard.
You are the one who made the claim that Ryan Bowen is a superior offensive player to Hayes. Why? As far as I can see, neither scores much, but when Hayes shoots, he shoots a higher percentage, particularly, Bowen's years as a Rocket. Hayes also gets offensive rebounds at a higher rate than Bowen.
I am not going to educate you about bball. stats everything is on nba.com. just go look up yourself. stupid.
A player who has meager offensive skills as it is can't afford to play with so little confidence. He needs to master all the hook and flip shots, from all angles, inside of 8 feet. He needs to polish his foot work and pump fake moves. With the free throws, I have no clue what's going on there. Maybe Calvin Murphy? If we can just get Chuck playing on offense like he did his rookie year, that would be a huge improvement. He's severely regressed, and it's mostly mental.
No, you are making baseless claims and calling people stupid when people ask you for explanation. Your claims are unjustified statistically or by actually watching games.
We went up against Boozer last year and we couldn't rely on Chuck to stop him. I respect the hustle that he brings to the court, and the fact that he is our best defensive PF....but being the best defensive PF on this team isn't saying much. I think some people see “Rockets best defensive PF” and overvalue his impact. I have seen plenty of posts here stating that he is an elite defender, or that he can shut stud PF’s down and that just isn’t the case. I’m not saying he sucks at defense but he isn’t an elite defender. And when you are as garbage as he is offensively to get significant burn on a contending team you need to be elite defensively....
LMAO! How many NO games have you watched? # of dunks by Rybo > # of dunks by Chuck FG% in the paint of Rybo > FG% in the paint of Chuck FG% outside the paint of Rybo > FG% outside the paint of Chuck FT% of Rybo > FT% of Chuck points per minute of Rybo > points per minute of Chuck
That is not true. At all. Boozer wasn't stopped because of Yao getting beat on PNR... Chuck barely guarded him at all in that series. Sad, that people don't actually watch games and then comment. Better yet... why don't we ask JVG why Chuck wasn't guarding Boozer.
Firstly, you can't rely on any defender in the league to "stop" Boozer. That's an impossible and unnecessary standard. Secondly, as has been explained over and over, the reason we couldn't rely on Chuck to guard him was because Chuck wasn't defending him. And the reason he wasn't defending him was because JVG didn't want Yao having to guard the 3-point line. Jonathan Feigen, from the Chronicle, already did for both JVG and Adelman: [rquoter]Both coaches cited Yao's difficulties defending the 3-point arc for the assignment on Boozer, rather than Okur. That's why, when Yao was out on Sunday, they happily switched the assignments and kept Hayes on Boozer when Hayes was in the game.-- Jonathan[/rquoter]
Fails to account for who is actually playing real minutes and who has played more gargage time. Fails to account for sample size. Fails to account for career numbers. Fails to account for offensive rebounding.
I think what has been amazing to watch this season is the incredible improvement in Luis Scola's defense from the beginning of the season until now. Dude is all over the place defensively, gives great help, takes the charge, boxes out on the boards and really works on the PnR defense. His defensive improvement has shocked me. I think Scola's defensive improvement is the single greatest factor leading to Hayes' decrease in minutes. I don't think Scola is as good as Hayes defensively but he has just closed the gap so much and the difference in his offense compared to Hayes is unfathomable. Hayes has his spot on this team. We have to remember the value for the dollar we are getting here. What other player could we bring in here for the salary he is getting after being in the league a couple years that could bring as much to the table as Chuck Hayes? And there should be no question, he is the best defender on Boozer by far. When we play the Jazz, Adelman will rotate him in behind Yao to allow us to best defend Boozer while keeping a man (Scola) on Okur that is able to crowd him on the perimeter. Landry can't defend Boozer, he's not strong enough. Hayes is STILL a great value player. We are simply getting great production and value from our PF slot right now with the 3 man combination of Scola, Landry, and Hayes. What other 3 players could give you their production for the money we are paying each one of them? Moneyball man, all three of them.
