Our entire squad is underpaid and overachieving. The Knicks' entire squad is overpaid and underachieving. So, yes. Definitely Morey = Thomas.
Exactly. Everyone has always said "Isaiah Thomas is a horrible GM, but boy can the guy draft!". So if you're comparing drafting skills, I'd take being compared to Isaiah as a compliment if I were Morey. If you're comparing overall GM skills - I'd slam you into a wall at Toyota Center.
They both were GM's of NBA franchises and each GM managed a team consisting of a point guard, shooting guard, small forward, power forward and you won't believe this, a center!
No, Morey is the fat Joe Johnson. I am not being sarcastic, and I am not slamming Morey. I just think Isiah is a lot better than we give him credit for. If you think about it, though Isiah has made mistakes, the one huge one he made was really trading what turned out to be 2 lotto picks for Eddy Curry. These picks turned into LaMarcus Aldridge (traded to Portland for Tyrus Thomas, I believe) and Joakim Noah. Yeah, he made mistakes with Marbury, Jeffries, James, etc., but without the Eddy Curry trade, and with 2 extra high picks to play with, I'd bet the Knicks would be much better and Isiah would be spoken of in quite different terms. Morey traded 2 picks for Ron Artest, too, they just are low 1st rounders (Donte Greene and Omri Casspi being the two guys picked) and Ron worked out a lot better in his 1 year than Curry did in his entire Knick tenure. It's not like Morey's batting 1.000, either, he has his hits and his misses, it's just that his misses have tended to be less higher profile and expensive (though arguably, one of them misses is not trading McGrady earlier, but that might be more of a Leslie Alexander thing). But is it really that Morey don't make big expensive mistakes or that Les Alexander doesn't spend enough money for Morey to make big expensive mistakes? If Morey had unlimited budget like the Knicks have, would he go a little wild spending money?
How many high draft picks did Zeke have? How many has Morey had? Scola, Landry, Bundinger, and Anderson were all second round picks. Brooks was a low, low 1st round pick. Give me a break.
That's an interesting question. The Knicks' huge market gives their GM an advantage in spending power, so there's always a temptation to try to win by simply outspending other teams. Because of this, I think there is an incredible pressure to "win now" in NY, though the pressure has decreased after years of futility and bad trades. Who knows how that spending power, as well as the pressure and scrutiny, would change Morey's approach.
Things are never as bad as they seem, and things are never as good as they seem. I agree, Isiah wasn't as bad of a GM as people made him out to be. The thing is.. :grin: :grin: :grin: I'm sorry I can't say that without cracking up!!! he was crap.. have another smokie smoke!!!
Isiah Thompson has made franchise-breaking mistakes. Morey has not. Some would consider Morey's biggest mistake to be getting Joey Dorsey.
I think you make a very interesting point, however most people here see things in only one dimension, so you're probably getting slammed because Isiah=trash and DM=God. DM the GM and Thomas have the same aggresive mentality when it comes to drafting and GM-ing. I think he's shown over the years that unlike the typical, risk-averse book nerd, DM loves high rewards moves, even if it means taking a little risk. Look at the Brooks draft and the Battier trade: both of those were risky moves. Brooks because we already had a gazillion pgs and were in need of a big, and Battier because we thought it was a good time to go all in. IMHO the biggest difference between Thomas and DM was that Thomas doesn't hedge his bets, while DM does. Thomas is like Barkley at a gambling table, always going "all in" because...well, he's a millionaire and could probably buy that casino if he wanted to. DM's not perfect, the Francis, Mike James, Barry acquisitions turned out to be busts, and Taylor and throw-in Dorsey is starting to look like one as well. However in Thomas' case his Starbury and Curry experiments ended up crippling the Knicks org for years, while DM's mistakes has very little impact if at all to the organization.
