Name 3 teams in the majors with 4 African AMERICAN players let alone 1 team. Go ahead and look it up. I have a feeling you think guys like Willy T, and Jose Reyes are African Americans when in fact they aren't even close. There just aren't that many true African American Baseball players. This guy just likes to stir things up.
It just doesn't matter. It's the whole "quota" error. By imposing quotas on an organization, you force them to become racist because now they're certainly looking at race. It should never be an issue--not in any hiring decision, and not for some arbitrary quota. The most qualified man or woman should win the job. Period.
You baffle me. Equating African-Americans with African-Hispanics! Phllies: Tom Gordon, Kyle Lohse, Ryan Howard, and Jimmy Rollins. Tampa: Edwin Jackson, Carl Crawford, BJ Upton, and Delmon Young. Twins: Jason Bartlett, Torii Hunter, Garrett Jones, and Rondell White
My bad, you're right. thanks akhorahil. Christopher Roberson also plays for the Phillies. Somebody already mentioned the Brewers. The Giants also come to mind. Ray Durham, Barry Bonds, Dave Roberts, and Randy Winn.
You bring up the Giants. That's a good team to mention on this topic. Look at all 4 of those players. They are on the way to retiring. Again the whole Joe Morgan thing was more about lack of interest in baseball among the Urban African American youth now. He wasn't saying it was because of racist owners. Gary Sheffield is the one who brought pure racism into this. If you flip this and talk about the lack of rural white males playing in the NBA now as opposed to 30 years ago... you get the same result. IMO it has more to do with the environment in which people live, than what shade of skin tone they are.
Your opinion is correct. The RBI Foundation exists for precisely this reason. It was founded by people who actually care about what's actually happening in our communities, not by idiots who read a 25-man roster and b**** about skin color.
I really want to know, Private: If you are Drayton McLane, Jr, and you have only two candidates that are willing to accept an offer for the managerial job: 1) Cecil Cooper, and 2) Joe Torre, Who do you hire, and why?
Well, it's looking like Cooper is in a one-man race for the managerial position, per an article on the astros site. I don't have too much of problem with this...but what I do wanna see is some fresh blood brought in to be the coaches...I have no problem with Cruz being there, but I've seen enough baserunning gaffes over on the third base side. Bidge and Ausmus are guys that I can see coaching eventually...the organization needs to sign those guys to a personal services contract as soon as they retire and then bring them on as coaches as soon as they're ready...you don't wanna let that experience and knowledge go to another team.
CCoop of course! Joe Torre is the MOST overrated manager in the modern era of MLB. Grandpa George buys him an All-Star team every year, yet they haven't won a pennant since 2003 and a championship since 2000. Unacceptable. And they won't win a championship this year as well.
I think Jason Bartlett would be surprised to find out he is black. For a complete list (to start the 2007 season), go here: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/jackie/news/story?id=2828584
You are a race baiter, but you are right about this. Although when he was winning WS he DIDN'T have a team full of all-stars. But the point remains that he was a bad manager until he got to inherit a team in NY built by Bob Watson, Gene Michael and Buck Showalter. It had a great rotation, a great bullpen, a solid everyday starting 9, and a fire that has never been matched since then by any team in professional sports. Those teams won in spite of Joe Torre not because of him. None the less, you still have issues you need to deal with.
Meh. Torre did horribly in StL and Atl (iirc), but I always thought he did very well for the Evil Empire. *shrug*
In the late 90's he did great because he had a team that you couldn't mess up. When he had to work with what most teams have to work with (an incomplete starting rotation and a shaky bullpen) he was totally exposed.
At this point, I really think it might be time to clean house - anyone associated with Purpura or Garner needs to go. I don't even profess to know much about Cecil - he may be the next great manager-in-waiting. All I know is their hitting has been anemic for 4 years now - even during the 2004 NLCS and 2005 World Series. Pitching carried this team, but even then our bullpen turned into a gas can at times. Start anew with all the coaches. The Astros lineup should be better than 2 runs a game, consistently. We play in a hitter's park for crying out loud!!! They fired Jimy but kept the hitting and pitching coaches. They fired and hired new hitting a pitching coaches twice while Garner was here. I just think a new attitude will at least shake up the lineup and maybe bring a new perspective.
Speaking of racist ballclubs, how bout the Mets and the Cubs? Very little caucasian representation on those clubs. Expecially the Mets. I believe at one time that idiot Omar Minaya actually made a comment about wanting mostly latin players on his team.
