Is Bush The Worst President...In The Last 50 Years?

If I recall correctly, you were voting for Smartie Jones last time I checked. So I guess even ol'smartie pulled the wool over your eyes.

 

Counselor, it's Smarty. Not Smartie. It's not a crappy Halloween candy that looks like a rave party treat...it's the horse that got casual fans interested in horse racing, again.

Smarty remains...the man. He's currently residing on a ranch where his only job is to eat, relax and have sex. Clearly that creature is blessed. I may very well vote for him as a write-in candidate again during mid-term elections. Particularly since Steviewonderboy doesn't look like he'll be racing in the Kentucky Derby.

 

good post -
i never voted for or supported him, but after 9/11 i thought he did an amazing job and while he may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, his ability as a motivator and someone who could actually inspire people shone thru (here is where his experience as an ivy league cheerleader really came out). ill be damned if i didnt get chills when he was speaking at the rubble of the twin towers and someone in the crowd said "i cant hear you" to which he replied "well i can hear you!". it may have been staged, but it was still inspiring. anyway, i fully supported our mission in afghanistan (my cousin is an army ranger who just began his 2nd tour there) and thought we did a great job in going after the people who actually attacked us.

america had the support and sympathy of the world (yes, even the dirty frenchies) and bush had something like a 90% approval rating. obviously there were a lot of libpigs who were supporting the guy. but than this unnecessary war in iraq based on total lies and manipulation. a war by the way, which president cheney and all his cronies had been clamoring for since the 90's.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

the history is still being written, but i honestly believe that bush will be regarded as the worst ever.

uniter, not a divider my ass

 

I think he is quite possibly the worst of all time. It will depend on the next guy and what happens in Iraq before his legacy is truly written.

But, he certainly is one of, if not the worst of all time.

DD

 

What I can't wait for is W's eventual commentary on how his successor screwed up his flawless Iraq policy.

 

It's nice to see some comments about Bush's "job" in office that are similar to those I hear from many of the Republicans I know personally, and others who were independants that had been Bush supporters. Based on what I've been seeing here, I was beginning to wonder why there was such a huge disconnect between those I know, and those who have been defending Bush, regardless of what he does.



Keep D&D Civil.

 

you are far from alone. he convinced people that the rest of the world was being weak and didn't have america's best interest at heart. well, we don't live in a vacuum, what happens in the rest of the world affects our well-being. most of the world thought it was obvious that going into iraq was a bad idea. i hope, at the very least, this causes americans to think more critically about presidential policies, and to not, as you say, follow blindly.

 

If Bush is the worst president, it doesn't reflect well on America as we went back for a second helping of crap. Over 50 million Americans said they wanted that donkey to be boss... again.

 

both "sides" need a huge lesson in that regard.

again...i can't think of one politician who i voted for a federal position who hasn't disappointed me. i've been ok with people on a local level...happy with Bill White, for example. but i've voted for dems and republicans in presidential elections, and been disappointed every time.

 

Some honestly duped, but most simply partisan r****ds more interested in restricting gays and preserving the rich, white majority than thinking critically on national issues.

There - I said it. Flame away - I'm too miserable thinking about this to care anymore.

Edit:

That's the real problem I have - it seems that a lot of Bush supporters are trying to equate the "American way" with ass-kicking foreign policy and old-school theocratic social conservatism. It's just wrong. America goes to war when forced - didn't we learn that lesson in Vietnam? America protects everyone, regardless of creed, race, religion, sexual preference - didn't we learn that lesson from MLK? Yet those who point this out are being called traitors - It's maddening! It's just sick.

/cynical and bitter

 

i agree with you that both sides need to put their critical thinking caps on. however, saying bush has been a disappointment is an understatement of biblical proportions.

 

i actually think you are right to a certain degree. there are people who are so intellectually lazy that they'd rather vote the status quo than invest any energy trying to see what's going on for themselves. that's not even talking about the few that are downright racist.

 

Definately bottom 5 in the EVER category.

James Buchanan will probably always be THE worst since his lack of leadership is largely seen as directly leading America into civil war.

Bush ain't got nothing on Buchanan...but Bush is trying his best to catch up. Heck, if Bush can manage to start a civil war in another country, that's probably a pretty close 2nd. Esp considering that this region supplies America with it's #1 import, oil.

 

You're not alone in your experience. There will never be a perfect President or Senator or Congressman. You need to ask "Is the general trajectory right?"

To remove it a little from the current raw nerves, look at FDR... I think he was right on the Depression and WWII and international cooperation, the three big issues during his time. I think he was wrong on trying to pack the Supreme Court and grossly wrong on internment camps. Still, the country came out of those major challenges OK and the Constitutional issue of packing the SC deal went away for good (we hope) and the country woke up to the injustice of the internment camps and, with luck and Malkin be damned, we'll never go down that road again.

Contrast that with Hoover, who was a good guy, major relief worker, did a lot for those in need, at least up to the limit of his imagination and philosophical underpinnings. He just didn't have the creativity or the ideological flexibility to handle a major crisis like the Depression and consequently, the country was floundering.

My point is that we have to expect our elected officials will do stuff we don't like but as long as the country seems to be moving in the right direction we can overlook or at least live with some of those. However, when those actions rise to the level that threaten our country or steer it in a direction we don't want to go, it's incumbent on all of us to help right the ship.

 

I am moving in that Direction
Part of me worries that somethings are ALLOWED to happen
just so various folx can benefit

I worry that our government ALLOWed 911 to happen
to give the a good reason to goto Iraq
I worry that the Levees *were* blown up
and the local gov not leting people fix their houses is a plot
to rid N.O. of the poor

I worry about those
I don't know if i beleive them
but
it dies buzz in my mind

because the people it benefitted

Rocket Rive

 

Question for you libs:

George Bush:

GREAT President?

or

THE GREATEST President?

Ok, I'll put you down for GREAT.

 

bush's whole life is about legacy. I had never been more dissappointed in our political system than when this guy was elected govenor. he basically isn't qualified for the job. I don't know how smart he is, I don't care, the fact that this guy is a two term president is a joke.

 

Ah, the irony. As a republican you don't even know when somebody is making fun of you.

Thanks for the giggle TJ.

 

Groups like the Bilderberg Group give me the creeps- I certainly don't understand it.

I guess at the highest levels the world is just one big happy family.

Bilderberg Group
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Bilderberg Conference is an annual invitation-only conference of around 130 guests, most of whom are persons of influence in business, academic, or political circles. Due to discussions being off-the-record, it is the subject of numerous conspiracy theories. The group meets annually at five-star resorts throughout the world, normally in Europe, although sometimes in the United States or Canada. It has an office in Leiden, South Holland.
The "Bilderberg" title comes from what is generally recognized to be the location of its first official meeting in 1954--the Bilderberg Hotel in Arnhem in the Netherlands. Although the conference is not officially regarded as a club of any sort, many members are regular attendees, and guests are often seen as belonging to a semi-secret Bilderberg Group
Attendees of Bilderberg include central bankers, defense experts, mass media press barons, government ministers, prime ministers, royalty, international financiers and political leaders from Europe and America.
Some of the Western world's leading financiers and foreign policy strategists attend Bilderberg. Donald Rumsfeld is an active Bilderberger, as is Peter Sutherland from Ireland, a former European Union commissioner and chairman of Goldman Sachs and of BP. Rumsfeld and Sutherland served together in 2000 on the board of the Swedish/Swiss energy company ABB. Former US Deputy Defense Secretary and current World Bank head Paul Wolfowitz is also a member, as is Roger Boothe, Jr. The group's current chairman is Etienne Davignon, the Belgian politician and businessman.

Bill Clinton attended in 1991
Both Democrats and Republicans attend.
From what I understand this is just one of the global policy groups that meet to decide what the rest of us in the world are going to do.

As far as 9-11 I am convinced you are correct in that assumption. allowed being the key word.