my question is that if Baron davis is playing for $1.1 million salary per year, you would rather have Aaron brooks. This is what you are saying, right?
Baron still has a higher efficiency rating for the season over Brooks. Brooks is 22nd amongst guards in the NBA.
I would too...but you bring up a stat in one game of the season to knock a player that is pretty freakin good...nevermind the 19 points and 11 assists in the victory. Also, Davis is past his prime.
So basically, trugoy, you want us to ignore several of the most important qualifications when judging the overall value of an NBA player? That's idiotic, especially when it comes to youth/upside, which are critically important in judging future performance. Also, even playing by your idiotic rules, at least 1/3 of those guys are worse than Brooks.
As much as I like Brooks, many of you are overrating him, big time. He is 10th in the western conference amongst PGs in EFF. 10th in the conference! He's exciting and he can score with the best of them when he is on fire...but he isnt one of the best, not even close. On the other hand, Bosh is one of the best PFs...and thats really not that debatable. John Hollinger also has his PER rating: Bosh - 4th in the NBA overall Brooks - 20th in the NBA amongst PGs
Yea he also fumbled the ball away in the final seconds allowing a breakaway for D.Williams. He almost single handedly gave the game away, too bad Williams missed his FT.
Thats fine...are you arguing that Davis isnt a good PG? I dont get your point...Davis has had a better season than Brooks.
Bad shots and turnovers are accounted for in both EFF and PER...Davis still has higher numbers than Brooks in both categories. Edit: Davis has 2.9 TOs a game and Brooks has 2.8...not really much of a difference.
His EFF and PER are higher than Brooks...those stats encompass everything. How has Davis been horrible? Points per shot attempt: Brooks - 1.21 Davis - 1.13 Thats the only category that Brooks has the edge on Davis, and its not by much. Davis gets almost 3 more assists a game...plays better defense...gets more steals...more blocks...more rebounds. Yes, Davis has been HORRIBLE.
Unfortunately, basketball is not baseball. Nobody has yet perfected an accurate statistical way to assess a player's overall contribution to winning, like FanGraphs' WAR. We've discussed time and again the many things which can skew these numbers--Adelman's system, the poor offensive contributions of the other players in the starting lineup (prior to the acquisition of Martin), etc. As such, you can't just quote PER and call it a day.
I don't want to state the obvious but it's not all about these stats. Brooks is definitely having the better season. Comeon, The Jet, Barkley and tons of other NBA fans were calling for Brooks to be an All Star..were they saying the same about Davis? Nope. Davis isn't even the best player on his team while Brooks is by far the best player on this team this season. Clips have had more talent to work with and we have the better record.
PER maybe...but what about EFF? Look at the top 20 list of EFF players every season...they are all all-star calibur/hall of fame players. You dont accidentally stumble into the tops in that category. And yes, being highly efficient is the best way to contribute to a team winning. Look at the best teams in the league...they have multiple players in the top 50 in EFF.
First of all PER does not encompass everything. It rewards Davis for being the primary ball handler and racking up more assists, it also completely ignores defense. Adelman's offense doesnt use a traditional PG so PER is out. Might want to check those EFF numbers again, check hotspots while you are at it. Davis takes a ton of shots in areas he is not good at, which is everywhere outside the immediate basket area. Brooks EFg: .507 TS%: .547 Davis EFg: .434 TS%: .495 Davis has been one of the worst PGs in the league this season.
I don't know why some of you get so hung up on Yao. Bosh is a near superstar regardless of what happens to Yao. If you have a chance to get that player, you GET HIM PERIOD. People here are way too hung up on our own players. Landry was great, but it's obvious that Martin's way greater. Brooks is great, but Bosh is way greater. Even if Yao gets injured next year, it just means we try to get someone else with his freed up money. That's the beauty of Morey. He makes decisions that end up being positive regardless of the situation. He doesn't do Knicks-esque gambles where as fans you have to keep your fingers crossed. Look at his transactions. They all lack downside. All of them are "great if it works, not bad if it doesn't".
