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Is Brooks Playing Himself out of Rockets Uniform?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Old Man Rock, Mar 1, 2010.

  1. rockets934life

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    You do realize you just described Bosh perfectly??? ;)
     
  2. RV6

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    because that backcourt still can't guard anyone and when Yao comes back we'll actually have too much offense. Brooks could possibly be a 25 ppg scorer, but he's never going to be that next to Martin and Yao. Ariza may not be efficient, but he's still going to get his 10-12 pts within a healthy roster. Next year someone's offensive talent will be wasted, we wont have yao/martin/brooks all scoring 20ppg, plus scola and ariza getting theirs.

    If brooks brought defense or could impact a game without taking many shots, then that would be great, but he doesnt and cant. We shouldnt trade him to force him out, but if we can get a good deal, why not? Lowry is capable of starting, he'll let everyone else maximize their scoring and he can concentrate on dishing and defending. If we can get a PF who defends, rebounds, and scores, he'll make us a more complete team.

    Remember that even with Yao back we're not exactly piling up legit defensive bigs. Hilton is a big question mark. DA can't defend. Chuck is a PF, a small PF at that...Hill is very raw. We can't just expect Yao to hold down the paint on his own, that's just asking for foul trouble, and that's almost as bad as him being injured.
     
  3. RV6

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    i dont think morey would take back calderon at 10 mill, especially if he's having trouble outplaying jarret jack
     
  4. towW

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    If Scola, Brooks, Martin can each score 30 pts Brooks can score 30 pts when Yao is Scola.
     
  5. OremLK

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    That "there's not enough points to go around" attitude is ridiculous. You know what happens when you have more scorers? You space the floor and score more often and more efficiently.
     
  6. RV6

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    Yeah i think keeping brooks and flipping picks picks and expirings for a PF, who may not be amar'e or bosh, but a semi-star talent who's defense oriented, but not a stiff on offense, would be great. Someone like Noah.
     
  7. ryano2009

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    man I love brooks I can't imagine loosing him after we lost big Carl :(
     
  8. jzmagic

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    I wouldn't mind taking his contract if it lessens their other demands to include more of our youth and picks. Something along the lines of Battier + Brooks + Jeffries + Andersen + NYK first rounder for Calderon + Bosh
     
  9. rhino17

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    Remember, Brooks and Martin are scoring 20 a game but we are not winning. With Yao, I expect totals to be very different something like this

    Yao - 17 ppg
    Scola 11 ppg
    Ariza - 8 ppg
    Marin - 19 ppg
    Brooks - 16.5 ppg
     
  10. TheRealist137

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    Brooks/Scola/picks for Bosh I'd do it in a second.
     
  11. RV6

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    There's only one ball. You seriously think that as you add scorers you add points? That's not always the case. This team, without yao, will prob average 105-110 pts a game, shooting a solid percentage. What's Yao going to add? Realistically it's only going to add up to a few more points. Teams have had better scorers and they don't exactly avrage 120 a night. And the issue here isnt so much the scoring, but scorers who dont defend. Our two best ones can't defend at all. If you can keep the same offensive numbers and improve the d, why not? A scoring Pf will also shoot a better % and more consistently than Brooks would.
     
  12. towW

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    ^this
    one ball argument never works
    unless there are many ball hogs
     
  13. LifeisButaDream

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    But Greg Monroe wouldn't be make the max. :grin:
     
  14. towW

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    Think of them as weapons. If you have many of them you will probably win.
     
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    What he's saying is that theres diminishing returns on adding more and more scorers, which is true. We need to have a strong balance of good defense to go along with our offense.
     
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    true, but that's one game...over a season they won't be able to keep up that average or even come close...it would be more like 19/19/17, around there.....it is possible for a trio to average 20+ each, but then what would a guy like scola or bud do? The rest of the team wouldnt get many touches. Somewhere you'll be wasting a lot of offensive talent, while still having a deficit in defensive talent.

    i agree that its likely to be distributed that way.....that would be better than something like

    yao 22
    martin 24
    brooks 24
    ariza 5

    but in either case you're wasting someone's offensive abilities.
    scola 7
     
  17. towW

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    Ah ic.
    Yao is still questionable he's not a sure shot at adding the scoring to put us over the top. Keeping Brooks could work out better financially if Yao isn't able to get back. But, defensively the Rockets do need a PF/C that can block shots and score efficiently.
     
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    I would be surprised if the numbers ended up like that. No way Martin averages under 20 ppg. If Scola is still here, he's still going to be getting around 15 and 9, unless he's coming off the bench. Brooks will still be around where he is now, IMO. If Yao is truly healthy, he's only scoring 17 if he's playing limited minutes, which he probably will be doing, so that number might be close. If he's averages 30 minutes a night or better, it's going to be higher than that. Ariza? Who the hell knows? He should get 10 a night just cleaning up after everyone else.

    With a Brooks/Martin backcourt, along with Yao and the rest of the guys in Adelman's offense, we'll be doing more out-scoring the other team, rather than the lockdown defense that's been the key to Houston winning games the last few years. That's a scary thought, but it might be what we'll see a lot of. You can hardly keep Brooks and Martin off the court because of average to below average defense. Their offense is too good.
     
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    You can never have enough scorers on 1 team. In RA system everyone is a scorer.
    Lakers: 4 players capable of putting up big numbers ----- championship contender.

    Celtics: 4 players capable of putting up big numbers ----- championship contender

    Rockets(04-08): 2 players with scoring ability ----- multiple 1st-round exits.
     
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    I would love to have the luxury to waste someone's offensive abilities on the bench, a la Lamar Odom.
     

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