Once again DD, we're on the same page. With Scola putting up 15 & 7 and Bosh at 20 & 10, it's not worth spending the extra $ on a PF, while tearing a part a solid backcourt!
I feel that a starting lineup of: Lowry Martin Ariza Bosh Yao Is better than a lineup of: Brooks Martin Ariza Scola Yao You were the one talking about balance...the lineup with Brook, Martin, Scola, and Yao would give up a ridiculous amount of points. There really is no defense there. However, a lineup of Martin, Bosh, Yao can put up points...as well as play defense. Look guys...Bosh is easily one of the best PFs in the league. I really cant believe you guys wouldnt want a front court of Yao and Bosh...Yes, Brooks is a little stud on offense. Yes, he is fun to watch. But if you can bring in someone that takes you over the top, you have to pull the trigger on that. I would love to get Bosh without giving up Brooks, but if we have to give up Brooks to get Bosh, Im all for it.
Bosh is 25 and 11...he shoots 50% from the field, 80% from the line, and he plays good defense. That is a big upgrade over Scola.
Look, there's no doubt Bosh is a better player than Scola...im not arguing that. But for the max money we would give him, is it worth it? To me, the extra 7-8 mill for Bosh isn't worth it.
Guys, another thing to consider is that I dont think we'd give up Scola AND Brooks... First off, Battier and/or Jeffries will be in that trade. Raptors would want some expiring contracts so that they can be players either at the next trade deadline or the following summer. I think a deal of Scola, Battier, filler, and 2 first round draft picks could make it happen. Bullard was talking about something like this as well.
From a basketball standpoint, would you give up Yao for Bosh straight up. Economically, Les will never let Yao go.
If we could get a deal like that i would do it in a flash..but i think they will want proven talent back..
Ding,ding,ding! This is what leebigez would do then trade for gortat. This is what i will always maintain about building this team going forward. Why would you build a team and rely on a player who has been as fragile as the one you just traded, who might be able to play 20-25mins a night and make 17m? I don't know of any team that can be successful thinking like that? Why would he make sense for toronto or my wishes brook lopez? The nets need to fill a new arena and create a buzz and make the playoffs. Getting yao and resigning yi along with the top pick would do that when they move to brooklyn. In the east and in that division, they could make the playoffs and thats good for them. Toronto would also garner interest and make the playoffs, but they wouldnt go anywhere either.
I don't think AB will be on the table for a deal. Scola, Battier and one of New Yorks lottery picks should do it. Brooks and Martin really complement each other so well on offense. Both of those players are such great offensive threats that opposing defenses don't dear cheat off of either of them. Both are terrific shooters from the perimeter which fits Yao's game perfect.
Well, I think its worth it...Bosh pairing alongside Yao is a huge defensive upgrade when you compare it to the Scola/Yao combo. Offensively, Bosh commands respect from the defense...defenses dont worry too much about Scola. Heck, half the time Scola has a wide open 18 footer because defenses dont really focus on him at all. Also, Bosh is a player that you can rely on heavily for offensive production in case Yao goes down. Scola isnt that kind of player. Another positive to Bosh is that he is 4 years younger than Scola...the difference in the players 3 years from now will be astounding.
Brooks AND Scola is better than just Bosh. They are more productive, plus provide as good if not better intangibles. Why not just keep Brooks and go after Amar'e in the offseason, who likely opts out of PHX. Scola is likely gone in the event a premier big is brought in, but there is just no reason to just give away Brooks, even for Bosh.
1. I wouldn't call it a "huge" upgrade defensively 2. You act like Scola can't hit a mid-range jumper 3. I agree that Bosh would be good in case Yao went down 4. I just cant see spending max money on him, when Scola is very servicable at half the price.
Since when was Bosh even a GOOD defender? Bosh plays as little defense as Aaron does. Not to mention he is incredibly soft.
I never said that...I said that Scola gets open looks because the defenses dont key in on him...In other words, Scola's presence doesnt open up the court for other players, while Bosh's presence does just that. Bosh is also better at the mid range game than Scola.
People don't understand we are not LA. We cant pay two max players and still have talent like bynum,artest and odom the team.Guy are not going to take a pay cut just to play with yao.
Are you being serious? The guy is not a bad defender at all...is he all-defense? No...but the guy can definitely hold his own, much better than Yao or Scola.
