I'm going to duck in and out of this thread because i already know what will be said by some. If every player you get is traded at his peak, what kind of team can you really have? The fact some guys peak last much longer than others is another thing to consider. I'm for trading anyone if it makes the team better and trading landry was because shane had 0 value and the young kings didn't want a 30 yr old scola either. If bosh entered the equation, i would find a way not to include brooks and not take calderon, but if he had to go, he has to go.. Calderon is the classic example of why lowry shouldnt play in front of brooks. Back to the point, some say when he loses his quicks, he's done, but how long did it take a guy like iverson to lose his quicks? Not to mention, a team like the spurs probably should've traded parker for kidd years ago because he reached his peak also,right? They didnt and watched parker improve faster than kidds decline even if kidd is still a really good player. Morey i dont think has the same theory about every player. If that was the case, shane,scola,lowry, and a whole cast of players would be gone because they're at their peak. I personally don't think brooks is enough to get bosh and to take back the 9m calderone is making. I think bosh is a really good player and would be worth anyone on the roster including yao, i just dont think they're going to get him.
So you are using stats for an injured player just entering his prime and comparing that to an aging player past his prime who is on the decline to support your argument that Baron Davis is better than Aaron Brooks? For this team this year AND in the future, Brooks is a better fit at the PG spot than Davis. Now, the thread was started as it pertains to Brooks seemingly taking off since the trade. The numbers tend to bear that out as Brooks is averaging 6.3 assists, 23.8ppg, 51.3% shooting, and 40% from 3pt range since we acquired Martin.
Ah, I was wondering about that. Those are eye-popping numbers, thanks for posting them. Hopefully he can maintain them for the rest of the season and moving forward from then!
Aaron brooks is going to have a career similar to jason Terry if he is lucky. Go and look up Jason terry's numbers in atlanta, they are better than brooks in every single category. He is not a top10 PG in this league or will be at any point in his career.
trugoy, every time you post anything in this thread you make a fool out of yourself. I'd advise you just go ahead and stop. Of course, if you want to look stupid, that's up to you.
I speak the truth and YOU have done nothing to contradict anything I say other than repeat over and over again that brooks is a really good scorer. Saying something does not make it so.
Yoda: "So certain are you?" Why do people feel the need to say stuff like this?? You don't know for sure. Some things are easy to tell, like Yao won't ever be confused for a sprinter. But whether or not a lightning quick 5 foot 10 point guard will be a "top 10 PG" isn't one of them.
Don't worry, for him it's all about the PER and the EFF. Until those start to show something that he doesn't want to see.
So you have looked at Jason Terry's stats, especially his shot chart distribution, his foul drawing rate... you have compared Brooks and Baron Davis Efficiency ratings THIS YEAR... you have compared Brooks efficiency ranking 22nd out of all NBA PGs in PER All this have been constantly mentioned in this thread by myself and others.
You have me confused with someone else you are trying to argue with. I only need my eyes watching games to know that baron davis is a better PG than aaron brooks THIS YEAR.
Do you have an EFF rating since the trade? Broken down by month? He played his best month of basketball in Feb. He has been a much better player since the trade.
Depends entirely upon your definition of what a PG is or isn't. Who cares about Davis? Brooks has been great this year, and we are lucky to have him, best PG on the Rockets team by far. DD
No confusion. You keep spouting PER and EFF like it's the end all be all. It's just another measure. I only need my eyes to see the game and see that Baron Davis on this team would mean his assists drop while the team has a worse shooter trying to be the man.
Would you rather have Baron Davis at PG for this year if he made $1.1 million, that was my point since someone in this thread suggested that Aaron Brooks is a TOP 10 point guard in the NBA.
so tell me which of the following players he is CLEARLY BETTER THAN Steve Nash Chris Paul Chauncey Billups Deron Williams Rajon Rondo Tyreke Evans Derrick Rose Russell Westbrook Jason Kidd Tony Parker Monta Ellis
That's not what you said. You said ever, so I shot back with the Yoda quote. I think Aaron is in a group that is up for debate after you get the top 7 or 8 out of the way. You have to consider what this Rockets team needs from that position this year(and in the future). And based on your list only a handful are no brainers and another handful I would have to think about. The final handful I most definately wouldn't take over Brooks. And yes, since this isn't an NBA 2k10 single season fantasy draft league, you have to consider age. I wouldn't consider salary, but age heck yeah. You listed 15 guys and it was actually pretty easy to trim that down. So for a guy to be in that bubble that includes the 10th best PG in the league wouldn't that mean he was arguably the 10th best PG in the league? Especially after you look at them in Adelman's read and react offense?
I'll say Nash/Paul/Billups/Williams/Rondo/Parker are better than Aaron right now, Evans/Rose/Westbrook/Ellis are debatable. Kidd used to be the best but we're not talking about the past right?
