Is Bob McNair the most inept owner in Houston sports history?

Bob McNair after the game: "I really feel for our coaches and players. they've done a great job. Not much more you ask. They gave us total effort and we've just got to close 'em, got to finish games."

 

I keep hearing how hard it was for him to fire Capers after the 2-14 season, it worries me a bit but not suprised he would back his coaches.

 

Okay, so Kubiak is just a mouthpiece for this guy. Face it, any fire and leadership will have to come from the guys playing the game as they will get none of that from the top.

 

The thing is you have to look at it from his standpoint. We keep thinking about the team from a fan's perspective. Fans care about wins and losses. Because to us that's paramount to us rooting for the team. We don't know coaches, GMs, players, etc. on a personal level. So we judge them on their actions.

McNair's different. To him, being buddies with his guys are more important than the on-field bottom line. Especially because being in a football town, McNair will never ever have to worry about the bottom line. Why would he ever badmouth the guys he hang out with?

 

I keep hearing Bill Cowher needs a buddy.

 

Agree, which is why it doesn't suprise me he would back his "guys". I do think a few more embarrasing loses like these past two weeks or a half empty stadium next week and he may be forced to do something drastic in the offseason.

 

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No it doesn't at all. I suggest you go back and look at the old Football Follies videos to see how prominently Bud's Oilers were featured. When the Oilers were bad, they weren't just bad but historically bad, comically inept and legendary for their futility. As clueless as McNair may be in hiring the right football people, at least he didn't up and move the team to Nashville and thereby F the Houston football fans who had swallowed 37 years of his crappy ass football. No, all McNair did was to put his money on the line and manage snatch the franchise from Los Angeles (where the NFL wanted to place this team) and bring pro football BACK to Houston after Butt-face Bud slithered off to Tennessee. Look at it this way: you wouldn't even be able to whine about no playoff victories if Bud had his way because Houston would be just another city without NFL football and you'd be stuck rooting for the Cowboys.

 

Repped for truth.

 

The last time I checked, neither Drayton nor Les were around when the Rockets went to the finals twice in the 80s. Nor were they around when the Astros needed just one win to get Mike Scott in the 7th game to go to the world series. Nor was McNair around when the Oilers kept disappointing us IN THE PLAYOFFS.

Come back to me when the Texans even get a wild card berth.

 

The five highest NFL payrolls:
Oakland.....5-5
Dallas........3-7
Minnesota..3-7
Cleveland...3-7
N. Orleans..7-3
Top five combined record: 21-29

The five lowest NFL payrolls:
Kansas city...6-4
Baltimore......7-3
N. England....8-2
Indianapolis..6-4
Green Bay....7-3
Bottom five combined record: 34-16

Spending tons of money doesn't seem to be the answer.

 

And that is why we will ALWAYS be hard-pressed to win anything. It's a cut-throat business, and if you're willing to sacrifice quality for loyalty, then it's going to come back to bite you. I understand that loyalty is a great characteristic to have in business, but it shouldn't come at the expense of the product. Kubiak has continually shown us WHY he makes for a bad head coach (poor clock management, poor decision-making, a terrible % of successful challenges, etc), yet here is McNair yet AGAIN sticking up for his man.

 

And while you are in line thanking that ******* Bud Adams remember this: Bud TOOK his team and slithered off to Tennessee. If it was up to him, you wouldn't even be able b**** about not making the playoffs because Houston would not have a pro football team, PERIOD. So you'd be reduced to rooting for (a) The Titans or (b) the Cowboys. That would be just swell now wouldn't it?

 

Odd. Since when was I commenting on their characters? I thought we're discussing winning and losing? Personally, I would rather take 12-4 then get disappointed in the playoffs over being 8-8 year after year. I'd take the Titans accomplishments over our own since our inception.

As for the whole Bud Adams fiasco, note that the city ended up paying for a new stadium anyway for McNair that they wouldn't give to Bud. It's kind of ironic that at the time, the logic was that people "didn't like Bud Adams". Well, now that we have an owner who's friendly to everyone, but doesn't give a damn about the team itself. I guess the story is be careful what you wish for.

 

nor were they around when the Astros were tossed between two different credit companies because their owner went bankrupt. Or when the locally born-and-raised Hall-of-Famer was let go of only to throw two more no-hitters and a couple thousand more K's in freaking Dallas.

The point wasn't that there were never good times before Drayton and Les; the point was that a silly statement like "Bob is the worst ever" betrays the very real possibility that the individual's frame reference for Houston ownership is pretty much Bob, Les, and Drayton.

 

come on man, you're smarter than this. you disagree with his decisions, but it is illogical to make this flying leap of "reasoning" and you know it. you have no clue what's going on in McNair's head.

 

there is neither winning nore losing when one doesn't have a team.

 

You still choose to ignore the obvious here. Without McNair, you'd have NO team to complain about. If you want to take the Titans' accomplishments then fine, go right ahead. But it's because of Adams' actions that Tennessee even has a football team and a direct consequence of those actions would be that Houston wouldn't even have a team for you to be disappointed about. You'd be stuck rooting for the team and owner that abandoned you or the Cowboys.

As for the stadium issue: Bud Adams had more than ample opportunity to build a stadium in Houston during his 37 years in Houston. Under his ownership he always took the cheap way out. That's why the Oilers played first at Jeppensen Stadium, then at Rice Stadium and finally at the Astrodome. Everyone knew (and that included Bud) that the Astrodome was not an ideal venue for football. So when the world changed and owners like Jerry Jones started generating revenue from their stadiums, Bud still didn't gut it up and build his own stadium. Instead, he went to the HSA and whined until they agreed to expand the Astrodome for football which required major alterations such as the removal of the original scoreboard. But he still couldn't get revenue from parking and concessions because the Dome belonged to Harris County. Then when all that was said and done, the Dome still wasn't ideal for him and the revenue stream wasn't what he wanted, he ups and proposes that Houston build him a new stadium after his team had just turned in another 2-14 season. That's when he started shopping his team to Tennessee which pissed off many people (like myself). Houston would have built a stadium for the Oilers but after 37 years of his BS, folks were simply fed up with that rat-faced a-hole to the point that no football was better than having to deal with Adams.

 

LOL tell me how you really feel!!!

 

You're right. I need to stop sugarcoating my feelings for Bud...