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Is Bob McNair the most inept owner in Houston sports history?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by da Whopper, Nov 21, 2010.

  1. Scolalist

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    Not even the most inept owner in Houston.
     
  2. Shroopy2

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    Last 30 years, yes I would say so.

    Bud Adams is easily the most despised Houston owner EVER. But Bud Adams took chances and at least made the team entertaining and LEGIT Super Bowl contenders. Postseason woes and oddly apathetic fanbase aside, Oilers at least offered some drama and decadence to talk about.

    In ALL Houston sports history, tough to say.

    I don't know how the Colt 45's owner operated. Astros MADE sports history by playing in the first ever domed stadium. That's automatic credit for such innovation. Rockets had too many owners their first 10 years in Houston to even be counted. Charlie Thomas brought in Hakeem and Ralph and later handed the championship lineup for Les Alexander. Les Alexander is allergic to luxury tax, but he WILL try to bring in real star players and isnt afraid of a splashy move

    Not only are the Texans bad, they're are so BLAND. A bad combo in my opinion. Texans aren't anywhere close to "Luv Ya Blue" and "House of Pain".
     
  3. HillBoy

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    Yes you are. Without a doubt BUD ADAMS is the worst ever owner Houston has ever seen.
     
  4. da Whopper

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    Bud Adams had 15 playoff teams in 37 years in Houston. That blows McNair away since McNair has not produced a single playoff team.
     
  5. Rip Van Rocket

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    McNair is a hero to me. We have a team to watch every week because of McNair. McNair gave Capers and Casserly a chance to build a winner, and when they failed he replaced both of them. He has now given Kubiak and Smith time to get the job done and they also have failed. So I now expect Kubiak or Smith or both to be gone after this season. There's not a lot more the owner can do. I also don't think McNair is a tightwad either. Just because he doesn't spend money like George Steinbrenner doesn't mean he's tight with his money. McNair is a classy guy, and we are lucky to have him.
     
  6. da Whopper

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    Who's worse?
     
  7. da Whopper

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    You conveniently ignored the AFL years and they should count for something. The Oilers played in 3 AFL champonsho games winning two of them. They also played in 2 other AFL playoffs. That's five playoffs in the first ten years of the franchise. Yes, they hit a dry spell in the early 70s, but then they went 10-4 in 1975 in the pre-Earl Campbell days. How many times have the Texans won 10 games?

    I despise Bud Adams as much as anybody, but he did put a much better product on the field than Bob McNair has.

    I am amazed at how everyone wants to run Kubiak and Bush out of town while McNair and Smith are getting a free pass on the criticism.
     
  8. da Whopper

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    Link?

    I would think at least 10 NFL teams are more valuable to say nothing of the top 3-4 EPL and La Liga soccer clubs and the Yankees.

    At any rate, I'm talking about on the field performance
     
  9. da Whopper

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    None of that goes to McNair's competence as an owner.
     
  10. solid

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    Les Alexander gets far too much credit. Fans think he brought the city a championship. He inherited a championship. All he has brought the city since he took over is mediocrity, years and years of it.
     
  11. Rip Van Rocket

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    Yes it does. He has replaced coaches and and GM's that have failed in the past, and I suspect he will be making more changes after this season. There's not much more he can do. McNair is not a coach or a player, all he can really do is try and hire good people to run the team. McNair seems to want to give his coaches and GM's plenty of time to prove themselves, and I don't really have a problem with that.
     
  12. rhino17

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    http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
    1) Manchester United
    2) Dallas Cowboys
    3) Washington Redskins
    4) New England Patriots
    5) New York Yankees
    6) Real Madrid
    7) Arsenal
    8) New York Giants
    9) New York Jets
    10) Houston Texans


    I dont care what their value is, no one is questioning his business skills, but he is clearly inept at running a successful football team.
     
  13. meh

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    Obviously the answer depends on how you interpret the question. But in terms of winning? McNair's definitely the worst.

    Rundown on the others that mattered enough

    Bud Adams - as noted, despised and will forever be hated, but wanted to win and paid to win
    Charlie Thomas - One finals, and gave Les a team capable of winning
    Les - Semi-gravytrained to two championships. But the Rockets have been winning in the regular season even after rebuilding. 50+ wins in the NBA is similar to 9-7/10-6 in the NFL.
    Drayton - WS entrance, multiple playoffs
    John McMullen - Didn't the Astros get into 4-team playoffs under his reign? Compare that to not making a 12-team playoffs under the current NFL.

    And as noted, another problem with the Texans is that they're not exciting. They don't even make me feel hate or love. They don't even have gut-wrenching losses ala the dreaded 38-35. I watch them because I'm Houstonian and I love football. But I don't really care otherwise.
     
  14. sammy

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    of course not

    but he sure is one stubborn man when it comes to the coaching staff. took him long enough to fire crap capers and it looks like we're heading down that same path again..
     
  15. Dairy Ashford

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    Adams doesn't get enough credit for helping Hunt found and subsidize the AFL, or helping develop the salary cap (I think early-90's free-agency could have destroyed the league without it). But that team was garbage for half of the 60's almost all of the '70s and the early-ish to late-80s. Also, I think just about every good franchise decision was ultimately undone by Adams' ego and affinity for personal conflict: so much so that when he legitimately asked to replace the now condemned(?) Astrodome, people just couldn't trust him.
     
  16. imatexan

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    Bob is a great owner, he is trying to build a winning franchise but it takes time the way he has decided to do it.

    You are an idiot if you think he is running the team for money, he already had plentyyyy of it.
     
  17. MadMax

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    whoaaaa...hold up. this isn't part of Bob's master plan. one winning season in 9??

    what he has done has failed miserably in terms of on the field product....this isn't just "part of his plan...be patient."
     
  18. sealclubber1016

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    He has sucked thus far. 0-2 on coaches, but his unwillingness to spend on Free Agents is what really scares me.

    Having said that, the Astros never even came close to the playoffs in their 1st 17 years. Not positive who the owner was (roy hofeinz i think)
     
  19. da Whopper

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    You may be right about the Astros and that's what I was thinking. Maybe they were worse than the Texans, but that was a long time ago.
     
  20. da Whopper

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    According to the Forbes article, the Texans are only in the list because of the naming rights on Reliant Stadium.
     

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