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Is America the Greatest Country?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SK34, Sep 15, 2013.

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  1. pahiyas

    pahiyas Member

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    Do you have data to back that up, or it's your "marketing hype" kicking in?

    All I'm saying is, yes, there are thousands who wants to taste the product but there are also those who have tasted the product and and wants out (around 6M Americans live elsewhere).
     
  2. arno_ed

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    You think that being the neighbour to a war torn country is a sign of greatness? Let's respectfully disagree on that area.

    I do not think i need to answer this, for example look at the youth unemployment in Spain (or unemployment in general.

    I couldn't find the number of people trying to get in this quick (I also have to get some work done). But I'm sure they will show similar problems.

    I know some who leave. But not many. However the fact that they are happy in a certain place does not mean they wouldn't be happier in another country.
     
  3. pahiyas

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    OK, I finally agree.
    Oops, so China will probably be the greatest? (and the usual :grin: follows)
     
  4. tallanvor

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    Why would China be the greatest?
     
  5. tallanvor

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    Not being a war-torn country would be. That's why people would be coming no?


    Your contention before was that greatness varies depending on who you ask, now you try to sum it up with one youth unemployment stat.

    It means their perception of the country wasn't hype.
     
  6. arno_ed

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    Indeed, but being close to a war torn country does not. Many people will not be able to get a plane to immigrate to another country, so being close to a war torn country gives you more people wanting to get into that country compared to a country with stable neighbours.

    another factor which is important for many people when they immigrate is the language they speak. And that is definitely not something that determines the greatness of a country.

    There are more reasons why I do not believe Spain is the second greatest country in Europe. Unemployment for me is a factor when you want to determine the "greatest" country in the world. according to your way of determine "greatness" of a country Spain does better than the Netherlands, the Scandinavian countries or Germany. If that is the case there is something wrong with you formula. It is like when your specific formula determines that Jason terry is a better basketball player than James Harden, you know there is something wrong with your formula.

    True, but that doesn't mean that their perception of other countries is accurate, maybe other countries would be even better for them. Therefore it is not a good way to determine which is greater. Let’s give another example:
    If you think from watching highlights that Durant is the greatest player in the world. Then you watch him play and he is great (best on the court), you can think you hypothesis that he is the greatest in the world is proven. However that is not the case, there could still be better players out there.

    Let me just say that I do not think you can say one country is the greatest, many factors come in to play, there are many great countries. But I appreciate that you gave a clear criteria for determine the "greatest" country. I just disagree with that criteria. But it is nice having a real discussion about this without name-calling and bashing of posters.
     
  7. Nook

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    Meh..... I love Spain and Italy.... England and Ireland were very nice as well.. the Netherlands, even Germany all were very nice.... Australia is USA lite.... Canada is "okay".

    I could happily live in all these countries and more.... I will say that almost all the countries are in Europe or heavily influenced by Europe.

    I would argue America is probably the best overall country, absurd resources, world's economic power, world's military power and has extreme global influence. Having said that, the priorities in the USA are not always the best..... money trumps family and happiness.
     
  8. moose

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    Uncle Joey?
     
  9. rhadamanthus

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    Allow me to summarize this stupid thread:

    Subjective thread is subjective.
     
  10. moose

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    btw there will be an obvious homerism to this thread here. is there a international poll that can be relevant to this somewhere?
     
  11. pahiyas

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    eye of the beholder metric
     
  12. Rockets Pride

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    then take night classes.
     

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