Smart people won't give bold predictions. MVP? Wow. I don't know. How could you know? Statistic? Facts? Past experience? Logic? Anything you can back it up, rather than ranting?
LOL! Amare has NONE of Dreams's moves in the low post as of yet and it's questionable whether he can do without Nash and suddenly people are comparing him to Dream. Also tell me what kind of Defense Amares plays inside the paint?
Thanks for the laff. That brought a tear to my eye. I wouldn't even say amare is on the same level as David Robinson. Until Amare can play both ends he shouldn't really be considered a superstar. Most great players affect the game from both ends of the floor. That's what makes them so great.
Do you know how much easier it is to pile up dunks and fast-break points w/ a player like Nash running the offense?? The breakup of Kemp/Payton was one of the main reasons Shawn Kemp was never able to put up the same stats after he left Seattle and we saw how the whole Phoenix team looked after Nash went down. Hakeem produced, night after night, FOR YEARS in the half-court offense against some of the best bigs ever to play the game from Kareem to Shaq and everyone in between, dominated on both ends of the floor regardless of the competition, team (his or yours), or matchup and oh yeah, in the playoffs? He took it up a notch! Ask Shaq why he never won a title in Orlando, ask Ewing why he doesn't have a ring, ask Kareem how the defending world champs got beaten in the first round the next year, then ask D-Rob how he went from MVP on the best team in the NBA to "just happy to be a role player"...I guarantee you one thing--the answer starts with H!!! 10 years down the road if you can say that about Amare then you can repost this question and be taken seriously (maybe)
wtf are u talkin about r****d? we are talkin about dream and amare...not yao and amare. yao would get b**** slapped by dream too. and how is amare so far ahead of yao? how did amare play without nash? geez...these amare lovers seem to conviently forget that.
amare isnt near d-rob either. robinson could rebound and play defense which amare can do neither of. plus robinson could create for himself and still shoot over 50%. robinson made all nba first team his 2nd year in the league.
Yeah I said amare isn't even on the same level as D-rob. I know how people put hakeem above hakeem so I was just going down one notch below hakeem, but not that much further down. D-Rob was awesome but man you can't help but give the nod to hakeem for what he did in the WCF. But that's nother story. I'm just agreeing that Amare isn't as good as any of those guys. He's good and he's getting better but it's still early. Who knows how he will turn out in 5 years from now.
lol you get a life hahaha. **** has me cracking up. I was just nodding to all the posts by the other posters then i went to read your post, and i just started busting up. AHAHAHA
My thoughts exactly. And that's nothing to smirk at. Those guys were some serious ballers at their peak.
crap, in my new issue of Sporting News, (with Brady on the cover saying "The Team to Beat") has a report of the NBA at midpoint of the season. They have a section of "then and now". They had Michael and Lebron, and yea, Hakeem and Amare.... the writer must visit the boards. I think im going ot puke....
On the ABC Halftime show yesterday, they did a piece on Amare and at the end, they were talking about who Amare's game best compared to and Walton said Hakeem.
Senator Amare, I served with Hakeem Olajuwon. I knew Hakeem Olajuwon. Hakeem Olajuwon was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Hakeem Olajuwon.
The only thing comparable is how athletic both guys are/were. Hakeem's game early in his career wasn't strong on the offensive end and consisted mostly of dunks. But Hakeem was a gym rat and determined to improve his game....a la the dream shake....if Amare develop these post moves and becomes a defensive stud (something Hakeem already was when he entered the league...and a reason he went #1 in the draft), then we can have the talk....but given in the last 25 years no other player has been like Hakeem, its not likely.
Yao can stop Stoudamire but not vice versa. A player isn't better because he gets to rack up a few more easy shots off his teammates creation, and that's what Amare has been doing. Unless Amare develops a killer move or a semi killer move, by which he can be trusted to be given the ball in isos, and the defense commits to stop him, he won't be as good as Yao, not to mention Hakeem. And we are just talking about offense, defensively I'd take 60% of Hakeem or 85% of Yao over Amare Stoudamire. Stats are limited in nature, Amare scores more than Duncan and Shaq, but anyone thinks he's better than those two on offense should better put the pipe down.
Funny how this is mentioned, Espn had a short story about how players who have been labeled as the "Next" MJ had alot of pressure on them, First and foremost their will never be another MJ and their will never be another Hakeem. Players on Espn stated that they wanna be remembered as the way they play not some former NBA player. I think Espn called it the MJ curse Fact or fiction.
Last year, people criticized that Amare had absolutely zero mid-range game. But after just one summer working on his outside shooting, his overall offensive game has really progressed. I don't know any other young player who can improve shooting so fast. He is not only extremely athletic but also smart. I have to give credit where credit is due.
